That lost against us over the weekend must of light a fire in the tigers. They're curb stopping Pitt 23-51 at the half.

1/29/2019 10:13:04 PM

Sucks that we didn’t get the win tonight. Should we start to be concerned at all about the tournament? Or would beating the teams below us in the ACC standings get us in? I guess Auburn is our only good win and they are fading. I just looked and Vanderbilt and Penn State are garbage so those wins don’t help. Would be nice to beat UNC coming up to get a signature win.

1/29/2019 10:54:51 PM

our resume is soft for all the obvious reasons but no we're not on the bubble yet

we are in danger of being on the bubble if we lose another game we shouldnt

1/29/2019 11:07:59 PM

Not worried right now. The bubble is complete shit. Maybe the worst it’s ever been. We’ll grind out at least 10 ACC wins and get in easy.

1/29/2019 11:10:02 PM

came back to go to OT and lose by one to the third ranked team in the country.

I would say that ain't too bad...

Keatts even reminded the media that he didnt expect to be at this level in year two, year three perhaps.

1/29/2019 11:10:44 PM

What is the one piece we're missing? I feel like just one more reliable player could have tipped us over into wins in every loss we've had so far.

1/29/2019 11:42:28 PM

We need a go to scorer. Last year down the stretch it was Lenard Threeman.
Daniels needs to step up and be the scorer that he was hyped to be last year.
CJ Brice has done well too
Someone in that role needs to become reliable.

Walker is playing his brains out. Kid bought in. He needs to be better from the free throw stripe than he is.

1/30/2019 1:14:26 AM

Keatts doesn't have the talent level that he will have in future years. But he's doing amazing things with what he has.

1/30/2019 1:22:21 AM

Quote :

"What is the one piece we're missing?"

Y7

[Edited on January 30, 2019 at 1:27 AM. Reason : hashtag cryptic]

1/30/2019 1:27:31 AM

Quote :

"What is the one piece we're missing? I feel like just one more reliable player could have tipped us over into wins in every loss we've had so far. "

some combination of another reliable 3PT threat, back up PG (Harris isn't good and Braxton running PG takes our best 3PT threat away), and/or a go-to guy when we need a late bucket.

bryce has stepped up as both a 3PT threat lately and a go-to guy as well. i'm excited to see him continue to improve and be more and more comfortable. it still hurts when Markell is out and Braxton moves to PG. Braxton isn't necessarily a bad PG, but moving him there creates a domino effect where our best players/scorers are playing out of position.

Dorn hit a big 3 last night, but mostly he's a bad 3PT shooter...31.4% on the year but just 13.6% in ACC play. for us to be shooting 24 3s/game in ACC play, it'd be nice to have more than 2 consistent threats from deep (Braxton and Bryce). maybe Daniels can become more consistent...Markell has shown flashes but he can be streaky (and missed a few games, obviously), Hellems may develop a shot. so i don't mean to say that all hope is lost or that all our shooters are shit...a little more consistency would be nice.

i think those Dorn stats i listed are not including last night's game...site i checked hadn't updated yet.

the good news is - maybe we aren't truly "missing" a piece. we've got some youth on the roster. all these guys have eligibility remaining after this season: Markell, Daniels, Bryce, Braxton, Hellems, Harris, Walker, Funderburk...in addition to the newcomers.

1/30/2019 6:40:53 AM

It's not that we're missing one piece, per se. It's an overall talent uplift, having all the pieces fit both Keatts' style and together as a unit. When KK was an assistant at Louisville, they won the National Title with 1 Luke Hancock. We have a roster of Luke Hancock's

1/30/2019 8:22:12 AM

^yep.

1/30/2019 8:45:58 AM

If we can keep some sort of continuity on our roster over the next couple years, we'll be a perennial top 5 ACC team. That's the only potential red flag for this regime.

1/30/2019 8:49:37 AM

Yeah this offseason will be interesting to see what the turnover on the roster will be. Hopefully minimal. Always can expect a transfer (Harris?) but what would be nice is to avoid the head scratching transfers/early departures that we got so used to with Gott.

1/30/2019 9:14:11 AM

Some turnover is probably to be expected in the first year or two. I get Batts and Hicks transferring, Yurt maybe less so. Steere leaving after a game is just bizarre. Theoretically we're only replacing Lockett, Dorn, and Walker after this year (and Walker's replacements are already on the bench) right? Should be able to start doing that with freshmen instead of transfers by next year.

1/30/2019 9:21:26 AM

I don't even think it's necessarily a talent increase that we need. It's just experience and comfort and, most importantly, for the shots to start falling in for us.

We've shot abysmally from the floor since ACC play started. Some of that is hero ball and poor shot selection, but by and large we're taking fine shots, and they just aren't going in. How many times have we missed two or three shots right in front of the rim in a row only to eventually lose the possession with no points and no foul?

If the balls can start falling for us, we start winning a lot of these close games. If we learn to curb stomp our competition instead of playing to their level, we start winning a lot of these games comfortably.

1/30/2019 9:25:00 AM

^^Walker has another year of eligibility (we're only losing Lockett and Dorin)

1/30/2019 9:37:01 AM

https://www.wralsportsfan.com/brownlow-wyatt-walker-s-game-personified-what-kevin-keatts-wants-his-program-to-be/18157492/

1/30/2019 10:13:09 AM

Like I said... [/season]

2/2/2019 1:39:06 PM

I asked after the UVA game if I should be worried about us making the tournament. After this performance I am officially worried.

2/2/2019 2:13:15 PM

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"Ninth ACC game, sixth time NC State has trailed by double digits in the second half"

2/2/2019 3:07:27 PM

Boo is going to have a tough decision on his hands come May 1, if Debbie doesn’t make it for him

2/2/2019 5:52:10 PM

Welcome to the Bubble ladies and gentlemen

2/2/2019 9:50:51 PM

Quote :

"Like I said... [/season]"

Awesome we'll see ya next season Burro!

[Edited on February 2, 2019 at 10:39 PM. Reason : GTFO]

[Edited on February 2, 2019 at 10:40 PM. Reason : ^^ you can GTFO too]

2/2/2019 10:39:07 PM

Quote :

"I asked after the UVA game if I should be worried about us making the tournament"

We took the #3 team in the country to overtime and lost by a point, and that made you worry about making the tournament?

2/2/2019 10:42:09 PM

No, our lack of quality wins made me concerned. We have played well against some good teams but other than Auburn have beaten no one that good.

2/2/2019 10:55:15 PM

^^ UVA's garbage ball makes them susceptible to a WTF loss against damned near anyone. Playing them close is meaningless, unless you think UMBC is a potential world-beater.

2/2/2019 11:10:42 PM

Quote :

"UVA's garbage ball makes them susceptible to a WTF loss against damned near anyone. Playing them close is meaningless"

Their results thus far do no support that argument.

2/3/2019 12:32:34 AM

burro approaching Earl territory

[Edited on February 3, 2019 at 1:20 AM. Reason : "losing by 1 in overtime to a team that beats most of their opponents by 20 points is meaningless"]

2/3/2019 1:19:41 AM

Quote :

"Boo is going to have a tough decision on his hands come May 1, if Debbie doesn’t make it for him"

Lol. No.

2/3/2019 8:30:10 AM

^^^ Being the first 1 seed to lose to a 16 seed in the history of the NCAA tournament very much supports it

2/3/2019 11:47:13 AM

Cool sample size of one.

2/3/2019 12:57:16 PM

Awfully strange argument for someone to use who is claiming that a single, one-point OT loss is meaningful. Even stranger when a WTF loss is literally an anecdote.

2/3/2019 5:37:11 PM

Thought you declared the season over burro. WTF are you still doing here?

2/3/2019 8:28:46 PM

well with the law of averages and whatnot, our lack of scoring against VT should translate into shooting lights out against UNC

2/4/2019 10:52:17 AM

Unc is gonna shit all over us. Theyve found their stride and our team doesnt really play as a team. Unless we have some career nights for guys like we did there last year...this game wont even be close

2/4/2019 3:24:18 PM

Can't help but laugh at everybody who thought we were world beaters earlier in the year, just cause we beat a bunch of nobodies. We do the same thing every year, and you guys just don't learn. When Wake beat us, we didn't lose to one of the worst teams in the league. We ARE one of the worst teams in the league. Accept it.

2/5/2019 9:09:19 PM

You seem like a super fun guy!

2/5/2019 9:19:22 PM

Why does burro feel like he needs to tell us how to think/act? Just shut the fuck up already

2/5/2019 9:40:13 PM

I feel like the team is falling apart.

2/6/2019 9:11:44 AM

Has anyone met burro in real life? WTF is wrong with him? Does anybody like him?

2/6/2019 9:16:04 AM

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"LudaChris All American 7433 Posts user info edit post Haha this honestly feels like the NCSU football game against Clemson. We're getting a ton of hype despite a weak schedule. Couple of good wins but no bad losses. Then we lose and everything goes to shit haha. 1/8/2019 10:38:29 AM"

Really wasn't that far off in my initial post in the first UNC game thread.

To be fair I thought we'd definitely lose a few and end up unranked, but honestly didn't think it would go as poorly as it has(losing to Wake and that historic stinker of a game against VT). I also didn't think we would end up on the wrong side of bubble conversations.

2/6/2019 9:25:13 AM

Quote :

"I feel like the team is falling apart."

Ehh. It’s only been a couple games since we took UVa to OT. The VT game was a complete disaster. But last night we actually played solid O and limited turnovers. That’s a positive. Our D was bad, really bad. Rebounding was bad. I think more than us falling apart, we just aren’t *that* good. And when we try to keep pace with a team like UNC, the talent gap is more evident. We don’t have the horses to run with them at all. They are better at every position than us and when we try to run with them, they’re gonna blow our doors off. We see that type of thing every year...some team, sometimes it’s us, decides they can run with UNC and it never ends well.

I’m not defending our performance last night or vs VT. But I think we just aren’t that good. There’s nothing deeper to it...we aren’t falling apart or having any deeper problems imo

2/6/2019 10:01:05 AM

^yeap. dunno wtf happened vs VT because I think we played hard and took (mostly) open shots. The ball just wouldn't go in. But your UNC take is spot on. Luckily, we have a couple of 5 stars and a couple of 4 stars coming to campus next year.

2/6/2019 4:23:43 PM

We do??

2/6/2019 4:30:43 PM

I guess if you count SKJ and Bates then it’s almost true.

2/6/2019 4:34:54 PM

SKJ was a former 5-star, right? SO I guess we we'll have two new 5-stars and two new 4-stars eligible next year.

(But he did say "coming to campus", and SKJ and Bates are already on campus)

2/6/2019 4:45:13 PM

It's only Keatts second year, and the overhaul he done with last year team was impressive, that's why I'm a little bummed out by the ACC results this year. Ignoring the last three games, most of the ACC games we played were won by the skin of the teeth. Not only did we lose to Wake, we were down by 20 points at one point. We literally needed a prayer to beat Clemson, and we were down at Miami most of the game and squeezed out a win. I just don't know what type of basketball we're playing. We try to force other teams over but when we do we don't even get easy buckets. Daniels plays like he's on something, and Markell appears like he's thinking too much. Our offense is predictable, and our suppose pressure defense is soft.

2/6/2019 5:01:52 PM

Leque is a 4star, close to 5 but nobody puts him at 5. Is a borderline 4 (4 on scout, 3 on rivals). Bates is coming off multiple bad shoulder injuries. SKJ was a 5 star but didn't do much of anything at Kentucky. Silly to still refer to someone who has played 2 college seasons by their high school ranking.

2/6/2019 5:10:45 PM

Wait. So instead of acknowledging that a bunch of highly rated recruits are likely to be better than a team cobbled together from juco and mid/low major transfers in the context of unc simply having better athletes than us, we are going to argue semantics. Don’t ever change wolf web.

^Literally everyone had lecque at 5 star before he signed with us.

[Edited on February 6, 2019 at 7:14 PM. Reason : L]

2/6/2019 7:10:43 PM