dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
I agree, testing isn't necessary. Trump is doing such a good job he is why other countries are doing well too! 3/11/2020 10:54:47 AM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Pandemics aren't controled by presidents. Even if he fired a guy, there is nothing a single person was going to do to stop this. Each state has public health officials, counties have public health officials. We have a private healthcare system with a lot of underlying issues making us vulnerable. Stop blaming Trump for a global disaster that didn't even start here. That team he reassigned wasn't going to assert its will over the Chinese government. 3/11/2020 11:03:46 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
So they were told to stop testing, not from a "we don't want this to get out" point of view, but a "you're not certified to test" perspective.
I see.
Same results though - information not getting out as soon as it should have. Why did these labs need to be certified? 3/11/2020 11:09:10 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
we need to stop being so mean to trump, it's not his fault 3/11/2020 11:14:01 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Also, I wonder if the Constitution is going to make it difficult for our governments to affect real measures to control this. At least without declaring marshal law. I mean can our governments legally force people to stay in their homes against their will?
And if so, what if you get a bunch of gun-toting militia folks who refuse to do so? Because rights. 3/11/2020 11:14:30 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
^ I don't know those are your people go talk to them 3/11/2020 11:21:11 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
No they're not
I know no militia types. Everyone I know in conservative circles, and family, and friends, etc, they would all worry, but comply with any type of quarantine. 3/11/2020 11:22:59 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Robert Redfield, CDC Director, said there are no plans to set up drive through #COVID19 test centres because "We're tryinjg to maintain the relationship between individuals and their healthcare providers." " |
To date I haven’t heard a peep from my insurance company about this. I’m not going to be surprised at this point If things get as bad here as in Italy3/11/2020 3:37:46 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Nobody is getting tested any time soon unless they're part of a mass outbreak that's super concentrated. So many places denying tests unless the suspected person has been to a foreign country with COVID clusters, which is dumb AF at this point. Pence made a yuge mistake saying millions of tests would be available by the end of the week. I am not buying it at all. 3/11/2020 5:29:20 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Testing rates will increase when they dont need to go through CDC, but it wont be anything close to the SK response 3/11/2020 5:35:20 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Trump is addressing the nation tonight. Going to be interesting if he sticks to the script by the experts, or keeps pushing the idea there’s nothing to worry about 3/11/2020 6:00:08 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
He will talk about how he's going to fix the economy and brag about how few deaths there have been so far. 3/11/2020 6:01:12 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
He tweeted today about the us being the greatest country and that we’ll have a vaccine and cure in no time. I’m worried he’ll go with this message and ignore the preparation aspect 3/11/2020 6:22:26 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " There’s a Corona task force at the White House, but “the task force will not give Trump its final verdict until Jared Kushner, the president’s senior adviser and son-in-law, finishes his research and comes to a conclusion himself,” per @anitakumar01" |
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/11/trump-emergency-declaration-coronavirus-message-125902
Dumbest most incompetent president ever3/11/2020 6:47:31 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Alternative facts are about to run into reality. 3/11/2020 7:45:20 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
He's blaming the "foreign virus" on European governments failing causing our cases to come from them. Wild. I guess he's racist against white countries too now. 3/11/2020 9:22:34 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Is he talking about when more people are going to be tested? Lots of people reporting that hospitals and ERs and primary care providers have no idea how to handle suspected cases 3/11/2020 9:36:45 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
Market is going to tank tomorrow 3/11/2020 9:40:51 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
he's acting like its isolated here and all we need to do is keep keeping it from entering. 3/11/2020 9:44:59 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
This European travel ban seems like a red herring or a straw man or some sort of misdirection. I’m eager to see what the epidemiologists say about that. Seems more like a way to screw the EU at the behest of the brexiteers. But if they are letting people from Europe travel through the uk seems like this could backfire by concentrating infected people in the uk. 3/11/2020 9:49:03 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
It's deflection.
"It's not my fault! It's those people and their foreign virus!" 3/11/2020 10:05:07 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Yep. and it will be used to push for more xenophobia and isolationism going forward. "This is why nations need borders" . 3/11/2020 10:06:44 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
https://mobile.twitter.com/justinsink/status/1237922566611906567
Trump misspoke, ban won't be on trade. He slurred his fucking words and caused a 1000 point drop in futures 3/11/2020 10:17:48 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
https://twitter.com/andrewrestuccia/status/1237892786071810050?s=21
Looks like the EU ban is a trump-miller attack on open borders within the EU. Wow.
Epidemiologists on Twitter are saying there not aware of any science to justify the EU ban. 3/11/2020 10:33:58 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Wall Street is going to turn against trump because of this... I bet prediction markets flip on his re-election now 3/11/2020 10:48:37 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7148 Posts user info edit post |
I mean Bernie and Biden are awful choices, but did prediction markets have him winning still? 3/11/2020 10:49:32 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ yep most still did 3/11/2020 10:50:14 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on March 11, 2020 at 11:28 PM. Reason : ]
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moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Figured out why uk was exempted
3/11/2020 11:45:30 PM |
HaLo All American 14263 Posts user info edit post |
Odds trumps “suspends” the presidential election due to corona virus? I’ll set them at 5:1 3/11/2020 11:46:35 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
https://twitter.com/whitehouse/status/1237941455693533184?s=21
Confirmed the travel ban is an attack on EU open borders policy
Ironically trump ended the address with asking ppl not to politicize the virus 3/11/2020 11:57:37 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^
There’s a pathway for that now. 1918 flu died down in the summer but came back even worse in the fall.
I can see shady groups and just general hysteria telling old people not to go to voting booths for risk of infection. There will be efforts for voting by mail but gop will cry vote suppression since places not used to mail in votes will have issues. 3/12/2020 12:01:37 AM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
No one saw this coming. Trump is responding to his loss of the markets and reverting to nationalism using Europe as the new scapegoat. This narrative plays right into the core ideology of his base and takess the pandemic turns it into a strength for his campaign
Heres the narrative: -Trump was proactive to ban Chinese and keep us safe -Europe was too soft and too PC to ban travel -Europe's open borders exacerbated the spread -The weakness of Europe exposed us leading to our clusters -European leaders can never be trusted with our safety again -UK was wise to leave Europe and maintain their independence thus safety -Democrats will want to open us back to Chinese and European world order
Of course its bullshit but its going to play well with his base that hate Europe and have a deep fear of america "turning into Europe" anyway. Trump's genius is that he plays to the deepest fears and core beliefs. Remember. Its not about being right. Its about winning the hearts of the base. Powerful stuff.
Don't shoot the messenger. 3/12/2020 1:40:23 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He will talk about how he's going to fix the economy and brag about how few deaths there have been so far." |
Nostradamus in the house 3/12/2020 2:06:34 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Trump is a virus. 3/12/2020 2:12:58 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
I actually watched Trump’s whole speech. He wasn’t talking to America; he was talking to his own supporters/himself. And he actually sounded slightly presidential for a second or two if you closed your eyes and wished he was telling the truth. 3/12/2020 3:26:40 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Trump should be thrown in jail, he is a total shithead for misleading his citizens this way.
https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/03/11/coronavirus-worse-sot-fauci-lead-vpx.cnn 3/12/2020 5:29:45 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He wasn’t talking to America; he was talking to his own supporters/himself. " |
Is this the first time you've ever watched/listened/read a Trump statement?3/12/2020 7:11:31 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
lol at the last horosho post, its so obvious he's gone full fox news viewer 3/12/2020 7:58:56 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Literally the first five words are an excuse and a lie and a direct Trump/Fox talking point.
People did see things like this coming thats why we had groups set up to help with it. Groups that Trump (or the GOP) cut funding to and, in some cases, outright dismissed.
Shorter term, we absolute saw this coming a month plus ago when Trump was ignoring it and pumping markets. Even shorter term, 10 freaking days ago Trump said (paraphrasing) we have 15 cases and that’s going close to 0.
It’s literally insane someone who claims to be a leftists just rolls up in here and disseminates Fox News and Trump talking points. Where is the daylight between Earl and Sean Hannity? 3/12/2020 8:30:49 AM |
utowncha All American 900 Posts user info edit post |
even better, why acknowledge earl, assign a TV station to him, or care what his political leanings are? 3/12/2020 8:43:08 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Lack of self-discipline, tbh. 3/12/2020 8:51:35 AM |
utowncha All American 900 Posts user info edit post |
i mean its like being a foodie and obsessing over how johnny knoxville cooks his steak.
no offense i just think he wastes a lot of time here. 3/12/2020 8:59:53 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
They did not think the eu travel ban through. People are panicking, they are congregating in large crowds trying to get back home, officials don’t know what’s going on. It’s the exact opposite of smart policy.
https://twitter.com/mmcintire/status/1238019976163995655?s=21 3/12/2020 9:37:59 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
S&P just tripped another 7% sell off breaker
[Edited on March 12, 2020 at 9:39 AM. Reason : ] 3/12/2020 9:39:30 AM |
utowncha All American 900 Posts user info edit post |
a smiley face you fucking choad? 3/12/2020 9:52:08 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ it’s just the stock market. This was all expected after last night. The stock market is not the economy.
Right now it’s down to late 2017 levels, almost the entire trump presidency wiped out. 3/12/2020 10:03:08 AM |
utowncha All American 900 Posts user info edit post |
"its just the stock market"
what a fucking cunt. go join earl in the cadre of hated fucking users. 3/12/2020 10:10:21 AM |
bubster5041 All American 1164 Posts user info edit post |
If you're not about to cash out of the market then you might as well enjoy watching Trump immolate himself over it. We know that the US will never ever allow anything bad to happen to these corporations over the long term, and if it gets to that point then we're back to trading chickens and panning for gold. 3/12/2020 10:12:14 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
You shouldn’t really mess with your positions unless you’re retiring this year. If you have non retirement stock account you should be looking at options trading to weather the storms.
Stock market is only relevant because this is what trump hitched his wagon to the past 3 years like the dummy that he is. There’sa reason presidents usually don’t talk about the stock market too much.
[Edited on March 12, 2020 at 10:17 AM. Reason : ] 3/12/2020 10:17:03 AM |