dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
what kind of inequality do you acknowledge existing 3/3/2016 11:54:43 AM |
jtdenny All American 10904 Posts user info edit post |
There are a lot of specific inequalities. Economic, intelligence, athleticism, singing abilities are just 4 of many 3/3/2016 12:01:47 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39457 Posts user info edit post |
aaaaand he's done tiptoeing 3/3/2016 12:05:45 PM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "we probably disagree on why it exists" |
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Bullet All American 28541 Posts user info edit post |
Let's start off with intelligence. Why does intelligence inequality exist? 3/3/2016 12:17:10 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Some people are dumber then others!
#AllLivesMatter 3/3/2016 12:19:32 PM |
jtdenny All American 10904 Posts user info edit post |
Take one of those and there are many reasons as to why the inequalities exist.
The poverty one is a big issue right? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/12/18/the-unbelievable-rise-of-single-motherhood-in-america-over-the-last-50-years/
Quote : | "Research suggests that children with two parents fare better in many ways — in school, in their own relationships — than children with only one at home. And those implications are unevenly distributed in society: A black child today is much more likely to be born to a single mom than a white child, or the child of a mom with a college degree." |
This is one big reason why there are economic inequalities between white people and black people. Or you can say this is a reason of economic inequality between one white family and another white family.3/3/2016 12:20:24 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
I like how the top secret conspiracy by the evil white racist society only attempts to hold African-Americans down. I wonder why the white supremacist bigots that oppress black people behind the scene in state/federal government don't target Asian Americans, Indian Americans, Arab Americans in modern day america (sure historically there were groups that targeted any group that wasn't white) 3/3/2016 12:24:04 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89855 Posts user info edit post |
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jtdenny All American 10904 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Let's start off with intelligence. Why does intelligence inequality exist?" |
This is the last season of American Idol and you want to start with intelligence?3/3/2016 12:25:46 PM |
Bullet All American 28541 Posts user info edit post |
Keep beating around that bush. 3/3/2016 12:30:27 PM |
jtdenny All American 10904 Posts user info edit post |
Some people are born with higher IQ's than others. Does that count as an inequality? 3/3/2016 12:36:53 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
is IQ just random like a lottery? 3/3/2016 12:46:41 PM |
jtdenny All American 10904 Posts user info edit post |
I don't remember playing the lottery when I was conceived. Is there any study or evidence of a link between IQ and "white privilege"? 3/3/2016 12:56:10 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I see we are rocketing right toward a bell curve reference. Awesome. 3/3/2016 12:58:10 PM |
jtdenny All American 10904 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe going somewhere, just keep ignoring half of what I say to ask the same non specific questions over and over again. I think the original argument was white privilege is real vs it's made up nonsense. Or Mike Brown's hands up don't shoot was a lie vs it was not a lie.
Or no one here can agree that people make bad life decisions and bad things happen when they do 3/3/2016 1:07:19 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
we are talking about white privilege because:
Quote : | " What annoys me almost as much as racist shitheads(like people who think white privilege is real) is hypocrisy." |
-jtdenny3/3/2016 1:12:29 PM |
jtdenny All American 10904 Posts user info edit post |
Any insight on why the single motherhood rate has increase from 20% to 70% since the civil rights movement? 3/3/2016 1:26:13 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39457 Posts user info edit post |
over-policing and the War on Drugs
among other major contributing factors, like wealth and employment
[Edited on March 3, 2016 at 1:32 PM. Reason : .] 3/3/2016 1:27:58 PM |
krallum2016 All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
Would be cool if people understood that intelligence has nothing to do knowledge, ability or comprehension. To me plants are likely the most 'intelligent' thing on the planet. Being able to use a computer and write some fancy code that gets you a shit load of money isn't very intelligent if you then use that money to rob your grandchildren of their resources... 3/3/2016 1:28:05 PM |
Money_Jones Ohhh Farts 12552 Posts user info edit post |
jtdenny, I am curious, do you believe that male privilege is a real thing? Is the fact that women make 80 cents on the dollar (or whatever it is) compared to males in the same position legitimate evidence of this in your opinion? 3/3/2016 1:28:05 PM |
krallum2016 All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Is the fact that women make 80 cents on the dollar (or whatever it is) compared to males in the same position legitimate evidence of this in your opinion?" |
Moot point. Our society (aka tax code) is built around the concept that there is a single, hopefully male, bread winner and the wife stays at home as a resource.3/3/2016 1:29:44 PM |
Bullet All American 28541 Posts user info edit post |
no, that's actually the point 3/3/2016 1:37:30 PM |
jtdenny All American 10904 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "over-policing and the War on Drugs
among other major contributing factors, like wealth and employment " |
too many cops forced people to have sex before marriage? legislative laws outlawing drugs forced people to have sex? being poor or having a shitty job forces people to have sex?
Where in this list of contributing factors would you include individual choices of free people?3/3/2016 1:38:58 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Lmao. If you actually believe the gender wage gap exists you are an idiot.
Quote : | " And GASP, maybe the criminals are criminals because they live in a free society and chose to be criminals when they could have chosen not to." |
Arresting criminals for their choices would be okay, but we are discussing infallible victims, so the law must be racist.
So white privilege is now: 30% less likely to be suspended for misbehaving in high school. 10% more likely to get a call back for your resume if your name sounds white.
Is that it?3/3/2016 1:39:07 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Oh, for fucks sake. 3/3/2016 1:40:37 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39457 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "too many cops forced people to have sex before marriage? legislative laws outlawing drugs forced people to have sex? being poor or having a shitty job forces people to have sex?
Where in this list of contributing factors would you include individual choices of free people?" |
good luck trying restrict anyone, regardless of race, wealth, gender, etc... from having sex
its kind of alarming that you think this way and that's without even getting into the main issue of over-policing and the War on Drugs
like, you do realize that you're getting very close to sterilization when you stretch the logic you're attempting to use, right?
[Edited on March 3, 2016 at 2:00 PM. Reason : .]3/3/2016 1:58:36 PM |
krallum2016 All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
The only thing that keeps sex legal is that our satanic government wants to fuck kids 3/3/2016 2:26:28 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
those kids have a choice! 3/3/2016 2:35:39 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Where in this list of contributing factors would you include individual choices of free people?"" |
Liberals are incapable of looking at it this way. There are no individuals and there are no choices, there are only infallible members of a minority, and victimization.
The bleeding hearts say we need to show empathy and understanding when discussing "white privilege"... the problem is they keep glossing over "minority choices" which is a significantly larger part of the problem yet it is completely ignored by the left.
If you want to close a lingering racial wealth disparity, implying poor people are simply hopeless victims and rich people are just rich "because they are white" is not the way to do it.
If you want to help close the wealth disparity, white people sharing more white guilt Huffingtonpost articles and being empathetic does jack shit son. Naturally, helping people isn't the objective here, the objective is division before an election cycle, and more dependence on government.3/3/2016 2:40:51 PM |
krallum2016 All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
Let's stop that post at 'free people'.
Someone who is locked into a 30 year mortgage, 10 years of student loan payments, or in a relationship that they secretly know will fail within 5 years is not a 'free' person. A free person is someone who makes agreements only with themselves.
[Edited on March 3, 2016 at 2:46 PM. Reason : and their mom. Love u mom] 3/3/2016 2:45:00 PM |
jtdenny All American 10904 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "good luck trying restrict anyone, regardless of race, wealth, gender, etc... from having sex
its kind of alarming that you think this way and that's without even getting into the main issue of over-policing and the War on Drugs
like, you do realize that you're getting very close to sterilization when you stretch the logic you're attempting to use, right?" |
Are you responding to me? I didn't say anything about spaying and neutering people.
People are free to do what they want and if they want to have a child with no job, no money, and no civic responsibility then that's on them and I feel bad for the kid. But I won't blame their decision on imaginary dark forces at work. Instead I place the blame on people making poor decisions.3/3/2016 2:48:41 PM |
Bullet All American 28541 Posts user info edit post |
You know, a lot of those people that you "place the blame on" were once the kid that you suposedly "feel bad for". And unfortunately the cycle continues. 3/3/2016 2:51:51 PM |
krallum2016 All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I didn't say anything about spaying and neutering people" |
Right, because 'animals' should be spayed and neutered, but we aren't animals right???? We should control the deer population but not our own right???
Quote : | " People are free to do what they want " |
Except that most people are only 'free to go to work to pay for shit they don't really get to experience.
Quote : | "I feel bad for the kid." |
Why? You can never ever understand what someone else's experience of life is like. If you're making a judgement about someone else's experience then that is your experience and your loss. Either everyone has a different experience OR everyone has exactly the same experience. If you make any other judgements at all then that's your choice. or is it
[Edited on March 3, 2016 at 3:05 PM. Reason : ]3/3/2016 2:55:40 PM |
jtdenny All American 10904 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You know, a lot of those people that you "place the blame on" were once the kid that you suposedly "feel bad for". And unfortunately the cycle continues." |
Sure, kids are born into impossible situations through the actions of their parents.
Quote : | " Let's stop that post at 'free people'.
Someone who is locked into a 30 year mortgage, 10 years of student loan payments, or in a relationship that they secretly know will fail within 5 years is not a 'free' person. A free person is someone who makes agreements only with themselves." |
That person was free to enter a 30 year mortgage, free to accept student loans, free to enter a relationship
Quote : | "Right, because 'animals' should be spayed and neutered, but we aren't animals right????" |
Maybe talk to whoever brought up sterilizing people. Not my idea
Quote : | "Why? You can never ever understand what someone else's experience of life is like. If you're making a judgement about someone else's experience then that is your experience and your loss. Either everyone has a different experience OR everyone has exactly the same experience. If you make any other judgements at all then that's your choice. " |
I can feel bad for whoever I have empathy for.3/3/2016 3:06:41 PM |
Bullet All American 28541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Sure, kids are born into impossible situations through the actions of their parents." |
And their parents were born into bad situations because the actions of their parents through no choice of their own, and so on and so on..... you seem to recognize that, but yet you continue to spout about "bad personal choices".
(don't get me wrong, I'm not exonerating everybody from the choices they make, but some start off in bad situations that limit the choices they have and sometimes contribute to the bad choices they make)
[Edited on March 3, 2016 at 3:17 PM. Reason : ]3/3/2016 3:15:18 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
then why don't those kids just chose to inherit some money? 3/3/2016 3:17:32 PM |
krallum2016 All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
This discussion would be a lot easier if Constantine hadn't taken Reincarnation out of Christianity at the Council of Nicea. 3/3/2016 3:24:57 PM |
jtdenny All American 10904 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And their parents were born into bad situations because the actions of their parents through no choice of their own, and so on and so on..... you seem to recognize that, but yet you continue to spout about "bad personal choices".
(don't get me wrong, I'm not exonerating everybody from the choices they make, but some start off in bad situations that limit the choices they have and sometimes contribute to the bad choices they make)" |
Go back far enough and you'll be a Republican and we'll all be against the racist white Democrats. Whether or not kids graduate high school now have much more to do with having bad parents or making bad choices than some racist law that was struck down 60 years ago.
In order to escape poverty, all a kid needs to do is go to public school for free, graduate, get a job, get married before getting pregnant according the Brookings Institute. This does not mean people need to be sterilized or people are animals for those who disagree with this advice.3/3/2016 3:33:39 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
so inequality exists, but it's still "good enough" for the worst-off so it doesn't matter
[Edited on March 3, 2016 at 3:39 PM. Reason : .] 3/3/2016 3:39:26 PM |
krallum2016 All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Whether or not kids graduate high school now have much more to do with having bad parents or making bad choices than some racist law that was struck down 60 years ago." |
Laws are always written to take rights away. Therefore, how is it not logical to you that if your lineage was at some point deprived of rights, then that loss trickled down into the present? If it didn't then the previous laws would've had no effect and thus wouldn't have existed. Its only your predilection to say that being a minority, poor, unhealthy, mistreated etc is 'good' or 'bad'.3/3/2016 3:40:58 PM |
jtdenny All American 10904 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Laws are always written to take rights away. Therefore, how is it not logical to you that if your lineage was at some point deprived of rights, then that loss trickled down into the present? If it didn't then the previous laws would've had no effect and thus wouldn't have existed. Its only your predilection to say that being a minority, poor, unhealthy, mistreated etc is 'good' or 'bad'." |
I'm against any law that takes away from a Right. You think that trickle down is the number one cause for economic inequality?3/3/2016 3:57:01 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
hell yeah, murder time 3/3/2016 4:02:18 PM |
krallum2016 All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm against any law that takes away from a Right" |
Cool so you're a social anarchist.
Quote : | "You think that trickle down is the number one cause for economic inequality" |
I think that past is the only cause of present...
[Edited on March 3, 2016 at 4:15 PM. Reason : ]3/3/2016 4:13:48 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 38011 Posts user info edit post |
Does the "Sandra Bland officer fired" news go here? 3/3/2016 5:14:06 PM |
GrimReap3r All American 2732 Posts user info edit post |
Was she an unarmed person that got shot by a cop? 3/3/2016 5:23:06 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39457 Posts user info edit post |
back to what's happening here in Raleigh.....
kind of weird that they haven't announced the direction of the bullets after releasing the results of the autopsy 3/3/2016 6:28:13 PM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
Heard today he was shot in the chest and arm. That not what you mean? 3/3/2016 6:37:12 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39457 Posts user info edit post |
no 3/3/2016 6:42:53 PM |
synapse play so hard 60940 Posts user info edit post |
care to elaborate?
[Edited on March 3, 2016 at 7:15 PM. Reason : Who was the autopsy released to?] 3/3/2016 6:48:28 PM |