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Dentaldamn
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This entire conversation has aged terribly and the endless bellyaching by American “conservatives” about this is getting tired.

8/27/2019 6:20:44 PM

rwoody
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Fucking Bret stephens is a token "diversity" "both sides" hire anyway. All the "conservative" writers at nyt write the worst bullshit bc they have to make up reasons for their principles that aren't racism and greed, sometimes they can't even be bothered to do that.

8/27/2019 8:06:49 PM

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The NYT wrote a piece about the Tea Party and acted like it was actually about fucking deficits and didn’t mention once, even in passing, the obvious racial backlash component to it.

Jesus Christ. How is the NYT so bad at this.

(Here’s a roadmap: if your movement makes its entire talking point about one issue and then proceeds to completely ignore that one issue after power shifts, it wasn’t actually about the issue — it’s about something else. Wonder what else it could be? Maybe backlash to a black guy and then full embrace of a bigot).

[Edited on August 28, 2019 at 10:27 AM. Reason : X]

8/28/2019 10:25:22 AM

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The NYT is what it is. They've been doing it for a long time. Here's the headline for the Stonewall Riots:

https://www.nytimes.com/1969/06/29/archives/4-policemen-hurt-in-village-raid-melee-near-sheridan-square-follows.html

8/28/2019 10:39:30 AM

HCH
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WhaT MeDIa bIas?
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/08/28/media/msnbc-lawrence-odonnell-deutsche-bank/index.html

8/28/2019 6:35:15 PM

Dentaldamn
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Oh nice. Someone apologizing.

8/28/2019 6:41:39 PM

thegoodlife3
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^^ he hosts an opinion show on a left-leaning network and apologized for his mistake

your use of a meme means absolutely nothing in that context

8/29/2019 1:21:08 AM

NyM410
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It’s also the difference between being a serious person and not. O’Donnell did the right thing after one mistake. Limbaugh, Hannity, etc can spew nonsense 24/7 (and they do) and they aren’t serious people so no one gives a shit.

The MSM is so ridiculously easy to bully by bad faith rightwing grifters.

https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1166893567664459776?s=21

Also, just seeing that they still air absolute jokes like her is just so infuriating.

[Edited on August 29, 2019 at 7:40 AM. Reason : X]

8/29/2019 7:37:57 AM

horosho
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Trump's lies vs Biden's "gaffes"/"missteps"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/joe-biden-gaffes-south-carolina-democrats-not-bothered-by-bidens-missteps-2019-08-30/

8/30/2019 3:17:15 PM

HCH
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"The MSM is so ridiculously easy to bully by bad faith rightwing grifter"


Maybe the shouldn't make it so easy on themselves. There is nothing of "bad faith" in asking the media to report all the facts of the story, instead of having a clear agenda to "get" as many republicans as possible. Case in point:

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Ben Penn

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SCOOP: Trump Labor Department's new sr adviser Leif Olson posted on Facebook that Jewish media "protect their own." In response to my request for comment on Olson's anti-Semitic post, @USDOL says they've accepted his resignation."


SCOOP!!

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"EXCLUSIVE: The Department of Labor has reinstated Leif Olson, who was wrongfully accused by Bloomberg reporter @benjaminpenn of anti-Semitism."



But according to NYM, Ben Penn must not be a serious person. But this is ok, and all done in "good faith" because Bloomberg eventually edited the original article (but no retraction has been made).

9/5/2019 1:26:22 PM

rwoody
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What retraction should be made?

9/5/2019 2:11:47 PM

NyM410
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Imagine having such a corroded brain to think Bloomberg is liberal. FFS.

(Separate Mike from the news wing)

9/5/2019 8:14:11 PM

horosho
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Tuesday: Pay attention to this bellwether election in NC. If Trump can't win this, its a real sign that he's going to lose in 2020.

Wednesday: Look at how small the margin was in the NC election. A real sign that Trump is in trouble for 2020


The reality is that Trump was not on the ballot.

9/11/2019 8:25:10 PM

Dentaldamn
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Bloomberg doesn’t expose an isolationist and religious ideology which automatically makes it “liberal”. Anti-global capitalism is pretty ripe in right wing circles right now.

9/11/2019 8:49:12 PM

NyM410
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^^ hey Earl. That’s a straw man and really, really ignorant.

9/12/2019 7:50:42 AM

Dentaldamn
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^^.....espouse. Lol

9/12/2019 8:19:23 AM

horosho
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Those were actual CNN breaking news banner titles. So is this:
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"Biden and Warren have risen to the top of the polls. They share the debate stage tonight"

No accountability.

9/12/2019 1:12:20 PM

horosho
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-SNL went easy on Warren and went after everyone else. The contrast was so obvious

-Meanwhile Colbert had HRC on to reinforce the narrative on impeachment.

-Trump posted the actual real election map and CNN ran a segment saying FACTS FIRST: Trump posted misleading, inaccurate election map.

The liberal media worked out today. Did you?

[Edited on October 1, 2019 at 11:58 PM. Reason : tweeted not posted]

10/1/2019 11:56:55 PM

Dentaldamn
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Are you suggesting money supports the status quo?

10/2/2019 12:42:15 AM

horosho
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Money supports itself and also funds the political establishment as well as the media to help their effort.

10/2/2019 12:49:52 AM

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" Trump posted the actual real election map and CNN ran a segment saying"


This is a lie. It had all counties that Clinton won a PLURALITY in painted red. Only blue counties were her majority wins.

It was a fake. Congrats for falling, YET AGAIN, for a right wing meme. Like clockwork.

** but CNN still rolls out Santorum and a cadre of Trump supporting assholes who have NDAs with the administration so fuck them

[Edited on October 2, 2019 at 7:52 AM. Reason : X]

10/2/2019 7:48:28 AM

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"-Trump posted the actual real election map and CNN ran a segment saying FACTS FIRST: Trump posted misleading, inaccurate election map."


Oh, you mean the map that is colored according to land area/counties as opposed to actual number of votes received? Yeah, I can see why someone opposed to reality (like you) would object to that.

10/2/2019 7:51:40 AM

NyM410
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Yes, so CNN was right that it is highly misleading. But, as I posted they were also right saying it was inaccurate.

Ole Earl was 0 for 2 on that one. But that’s what happens when you consistently fall for right wing propaganda. Sad!

10/2/2019 7:53:45 AM

Cabbage
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^Yeah, I wasn't trying to correct your post or anything; you simply snuck yours in while i was writing mine. And I didn't know that about the plurality/majority, thanks!

10/2/2019 7:59:31 AM

horosho
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/01/politics/trump-impeach-this-map-fact-check/index.html
TIL Huffpost is rightwing propoganda.

When you read CNN's own fact check you can see them admit that the map was pretty accurate except for updates made to totals several weeks after the election and that the main point is
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"but its overall point is accurate, as far as it goes. Trump won 2,626 counties to Hillary Clinton's 487 in the last presidential election, according to the Associated Press."


They are just mad that the map shows something they don't want to show.
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"Remember that Clinton won the popular vote against Trump by more than 2.8 million votes. That's a far larger margin than the 543,000 more votes that Al Gore got than George W. Bush in 2000 even while losing the Electoral College."

They want to show popular vote and stick to the narrative that hillary won the popular vote which is why they are mad but that number is just as meaningless in terms of the election. Cabbage voiced the same notion that if they don't show data the way you want it to be showed with spin to match your narrative, they are lying.

The factcheck is honest but the Don lemon segment didn't even go that far. He just talked about how Trump tweeted a "fake map". Theres a big difference between fake and not updated.

Imagine how far right the site must be that someone who consistently falls for rightwing propaganda could still be the furthest left on the site.

[Edited on October 2, 2019 at 11:42 AM. Reason : sometimes facts are just rightwing propaganda. ]

10/2/2019 11:41:31 AM

NyM410
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So the map was inaccurate. Glad we are clear.

[Edited on October 2, 2019 at 11:50 AM. Reason : Left or right. Ignorance knows no ideology.]

10/2/2019 11:44:48 AM

Cabbage
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" Cabbage voiced the same notion that if they don't show data the way you want it to be showed with spin to match your narrative, they are lying. "


It's not merely a notion or opinion: The voting in America is done by people, not by land masses. Sure, if you want to mislead people by painting a huge region (where only like 200 people live) as red to mean "This much of the country voted Trump" you have many opportunities to mislead people. That's the spin.

Pointing out that the population, not the land area, does the voting simply removes the spin. And that's what I and CNN did, despite your whining about it.

10/2/2019 11:59:28 AM

horosho
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LMAO this is the one good thing Trump has done for our country. Switching through different media outlets today and they are all so PISSED to be losing one of their 7 wars. GOP pundits are pissed too.

First it was OH NOES THE KURDS ARE LEFT TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES

and now its OH NOES THE RUSSIANS AND IRANIANS MIGHT HELP THE KURDS

10/14/2019 1:10:58 AM

NyM410
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I mean it’s pretty shitty that Turkey is basically aiming to massacre Kurds, who are the only reason we defeated ISIS. Of course, ISIS only exists because of our initial fruitless “war on terror” but it’s still shitty to green light a massacre.

Also, “withdrawing troops” is fine but they aren’t coming home. They are literally just going to another corrupt country like mercenaries.

[Edited on October 14, 2019 at 8:08 AM. Reason : but MAGA, am I right?]

10/14/2019 8:04:44 AM

Pupils DiL8t
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https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/14/facebook-zuckerberg-conservatives-private-meetings-046663

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"Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg has been hosting informal talks and small, off-the-record dinners with conservative journalists, commentators and at least one Republican lawmaker in recent months to discuss issues like free speech and discuss partnerships.

The dinners, which began in July, are part of Zuckerberg's broader effort to cultivate friends on the right amid outrage by President Donald Trump and his allies over alleged 'bias' against conservatives at Facebook and other major social media companies."
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"As part of the series, Zuckerberg met earlier this year with Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, who insinuated that Facebook had become a monopoly during a congressional hearing last year; Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who has fingered Zuckerberg as contributing to 'the death of free speech in America'; and conservative radio talk host Hugh Hewitt, who has cautioned against a DOJ enforcement action but has called for a 'new regulatory regime' to minimize 'big tech bias' against conservatives.

CNN commentator Mary Katharine Ham, conservative commentator Ben Shapiro, AEI fellow and former Washington Free Beacon editor Matt Continetti, Town Hall editor and Fox News contributor Guy Benson, and Media Research Center founder Brent Bozell have also attended the dinners, according to the person familiar with the gatherings. Washington Examiner chief political correspondent and Fox News contributor Byron York also confirmed his attendance but declined to disclose the contents of the dinner because there was a prior agreement that it was off-the-record."


[Edited on October 14, 2019 at 1:39 PM. Reason : ]

10/14/2019 1:38:55 PM

thegoodlife3
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Facebook is a right-wing outlet and I haven’t regretted getting rid of it for a second

10/14/2019 2:06:21 PM

rjrumfel
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Aside from your right-wing uncle posting nothing but political memes how is it a conservative outlet?

10/14/2019 2:38:53 PM

NyM410
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https://twitter.com/tvietor08/status/1183795652905467907?s=21

This x 100.

Fuck these bad faith pieces of shit. Ted Cruz and Jr are the worst of the bunch.

10/14/2019 2:49:31 PM

horosho
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/14/cnns-zucker-accused-by-staffer-of-personal-vendett/

I'm just too quick to pick up on things.

[Edited on October 14, 2019 at 8:06 PM. Reason : woops not wapo]

10/14/2019 8:05:55 PM

Cabbage
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^ Evidently you haven't picked up on the strong correlation between "Project Veritas" and "Bullshit" yet.

Keep trying, though!

10/14/2019 8:54:04 PM

NyM410
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Earl fell for a right wing grift?

Time to find my fainting couch.

10/15/2019 7:41:52 AM

rjrumfel
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Well, come on, it doesn't take a genius to browse cnn.com for a few days in a row and find out where they lean.

10/15/2019 8:47:52 AM

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"https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/oct/14/cnns-zucker-accused-by-staffer-of-personal-vendett/

I'm just too quick to pick up on things."


ahahahahaha

10/15/2019 9:00:58 AM

horosho
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Anyone who watches CNN critically already knew this without a tape of the head saying it. "Came from a right wing source" is not enough in itself to refute a story. I'd be willing to entertain a refute of this story that isn't something lazy like that.

Obviously, anyone who hates Trump is going to ignore this type of story so this type of story can only come from the right. The idea that everything that comes from the right is a complete lie that should be ignored is part of the problem. I disagree with them, I downright hate them but that doesn't mean they can't say things that are true.

This is all just a symptom of trump derangement syndrome. You didn't understand what Ellen had to do with anything but her behavior was showing symptoms of the same disease. Anyone who speaks against Trump is automatically a friend. Anything against Trump is automatically true and anything against anything against trump is automatically fake. Not one bit of logic involved.

10/15/2019 1:22:23 PM

dtownral
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they wouldn't even be allowed to call themselves project veritas if they weren't exposing the truth!

10/15/2019 1:27:19 PM

NyM410
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^^ fucking killing those strawmen

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" Anyone who speaks against Trump is automatically a friend"


I’m wearing my John Bolton for Senate pin right now, tbf.

[Edited on October 15, 2019 at 1:57 PM. Reason : X]

10/15/2019 1:52:23 PM

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^Might as well considering how you support the Bush's and Mccain. This isn't just Ellen, its a statistical pattern.
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"Most of Bush's climb back to popularity came from Democrats and independents. His favorability mark among Democrats has soared from only 11% in February 2009 to a majority 54% now."

What else happened since 2009?

10/15/2019 4:04:35 PM

Dentaldamn
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He’s an artist now.

10/16/2019 8:31:26 AM

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"What else happened since 2009?"


1. The United States of Amnesia

2. Michelle Obama

10/16/2019 2:26:05 PM

horosho
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Can you guys release some communications of former presidents with other world leaders? Specifically, I'd be interested in seeing communications between GWB and Saudi Arabia among others.

10/16/2019 8:27:22 PM

horosho
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I just want to point out that CNN has broadcasted Trump, Biden, Harris, and Warren events live but is only streaming the Bernie event online. I wonder what kind of person watches network and who streams online? I've had them up side by side keeping an eye out all afternoon. MSNBC isn't showing it either.

10/19/2019 3:36:56 PM

0EPII1
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So basically the deep establishment—which has been the puppet master running the country for a long time—does not want Bernie elected?

10/20/2019 6:00:47 PM

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You lost me at "deep establishment" and then lost me more with the rest of your words.

10/20/2019 9:37:01 PM

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Sorry, you people call it "deep state" ("establishment" in certain other countries).

The "deep state" is thwarting Bernie's bid (like last time?) because his election would sound the death knoll of the military-industrial complex and give true power to the people.

10/20/2019 11:35:55 PM

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What do you mean you people...

10/21/2019 12:47:13 AM

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