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dtownral
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^^ finally?

[Edited on November 5, 2019 at 9:34 PM. Reason : Calm down horosho]

11/5/2019 9:34:18 PM

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#yanggang invented manufactured consent

11/5/2019 10:18:07 PM

horosho
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MSM keeps posting articles about what Trump is thinking almost daily. I see it on CNN all the time and these bombshells from WAPO and NYT seem to pop up during every scandal. The idea is to take something bad Trump did and then push the reader even further by saying "and now he's considering the next bad thing" You can't read an article like this and not conclude "trump has gotta go" and thats what its designed to do. The problem is that its unsubstantiated and could be completely made up. There will never be a way to know if it was completley made up or not because, like most of the trash these days, there are no sources.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/12/us/politics/trump-michael-atkinson-inspector-general.html
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"President Trump has discussed dismissing the intelligence community’s inspector general, Michael Atkinson, because Mr. Atkinson reported a whistle-blower’s complaint about Mr. Trump’s interactions with Ukraine to Congress after concluding it was credible, according to four people familiar with the discussions."


Its poor journalism and its happening all the time now which is sad because when the dust settles, at least 40% of the country will never believe anything they don't want to believe from MSM and that is awful for democracy. Sure it scores points against Trump but, it hurts everything else going forward.

[Edited on November 13, 2019 at 3:22 PM. Reason : no journalistic standards apply to negative trump stories. anything goes. ]

11/13/2019 3:18:42 PM

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It’s really not poor journalism if you have any clue how journalism works. And Trump essentially confirmed it like 30 minutes after your post and said he wants to investigate the IG.

I know it’s best to ignore Earl but nearly every story we have seen (with some notable mistakes) like this has been verified 100%.

If you want perfection, then I don’t know what to tell you.

(Again, though, the one constant on here is Earl being anti-anti-Trump.

11/13/2019 5:14:11 PM

dtownral
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He very much likes the fascist president

11/13/2019 6:47:09 PM

horosho
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the anti-anti trump assessment is actually accurate even though what was meant (pro trump) is not.

I'm you made that slip because its pretty much unacceptable to not be blindly anti-Trump in the real world which has resulted in a lot of thoughtlessness in the movement against him. Its usually safe to assume anyone who has a problem with blind anti-trumpism is a trump fan because most people don't complain about things as long as their agenda is benefiting and anyone who doesn't like Trump is benefiting from dishonesty and unfairness against him.

With that said, it makes sense that since I call out BS against Trump, I must have a pro-Trump agenda. I'm just not like most people. I try to seek the truth even when it doesn't benefit my agenda. I'm anti-a lot of things Trump does, but not just blindly anti-Trump. In a perfect world, no one would be.

Being blindly anti-trump is stupid and thats what it amounts to. This notion that anything bad for trump is automatically good and anything trump says is automatically bad. Do you really think its 100%? Trump could come out and do something previously thought of as "good" and anti-trump people will say its bad and be outraged just because he did it.

Being anti-Trump undermines genuine resistance to Trump's awful policies and forces his supporters to write all complaints off as anti-trumpism.

[Edited on November 13, 2019 at 7:24 PM. Reason : anyone who doesn't like lies about trump must be a trump fan]

11/13/2019 7:24:03 PM

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https://popular.info/p/facebook-fetes-kavanaugh

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" Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh has kept a relatively low-profile since the Senate narrowly confirmed him last year amidst serious allegations of sexual assault. That will change tonight when Kavanaugh is the keynote speaker at the annual convention for The Federalist Society, an enormously powerful right-wing legal organization.

Kavanaugh will find a friendly audience. After Justice Anthony Kennedy’s retirement, Federalist Society President Leonard Leo took leave from his job to advise Trump on selecting Kennedy's replacement. Trump chose Kavanaugh with Leo’s advice, and The Federalist Society played an enormous role in defending Kavanaugh as allegations of sexual assault emerged.

The event tonight is black-tie optional and backed by a group of "Gold Circle" sponsors. Most of the sponsors, as you might expect, are law firms. But there are a few exceptions, including the world's largest social media company: Facebook."


fuck Facebook

11/14/2019 5:53:13 PM

dtownral
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"the anti-anti trump assessment is actually accurate "


Welp, from the horses' mouth

11/14/2019 7:41:34 PM

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" For some reason much of the mainstream media thinks hearings proving widespread criminality in the executive branch are boring but Trump telling an arena full of crooked HVAC contractors that the NFL is soft now deserves breathless live coverage"


http://twitter.com/BobbyBigWheel/status/1195162972257054721

yep

11/14/2019 9:59:03 PM

horosho
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Note how SNL portrayed AOC Absolute trash.

[Edited on November 17, 2019 at 11:50 PM. Reason : contrast that with the way they try to make hillary and warren seem cool]

11/17/2019 11:46:29 PM

dtownral
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remember when everyone laughed at trump for criticizing SNL

good times

11/18/2019 9:13:47 AM

horosho
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They do a great job satirizing Trump and republicans in general based on their actual behaviors but they always tend to glorify people they like or at least go easy on them.

What they did to AOC is completely different. They painted her in a blatantly sexist way and the character had nothing to do with anything she's said or done.

11/18/2019 10:12:55 AM

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Well I guess The Hill is pretty much entirely full of shit now instead of just a normal level of shit.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/18/media/jimmy-finkelstein-the-hill-ukraine/index.html

11/18/2019 8:55:36 PM

horosho
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I was going to wait until Monday for the media to talk about SNL but they never did. So SNL sexualized AOC for no reason in and left twitter was the only place I've found a problem with this blatant racism and sexism without any comedic context.

This nydaily summary is literally the only thing I can find written about it on the internet
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"Who knew the sultry bombshell of the President Trump impeachment hearings would be Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez?

Melissa Villaseñor channeled a super-seductive version of the New York politician, who halts the hearings with a monster lip lock on acting U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Bill Taylor, played by surprise star Jon Hamm."

Wheres the media?

11/19/2019 11:46:01 PM

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https://youtu.be/cbXdOLttnF8

i dont watch snl but i thought it was funnier than most of the clips ive seen recently

11/20/2019 7:05:25 AM

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shot:

http://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1197372567440506880

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" New from me + @dylanbyers:

Mark Zuckerberg had a secret dinner with Donald Trump and Peter Thiel last month, @NBCNews has learned

https://t.co/6j0i0NNd3o"


chaser:

http://twitter.com/citizenwillis/status/1197589786959200259

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" The top 10 "impeachment" @Facebook posts over the past 24 hours in terms of # of interactions come from:

1. Donald J Trump
2. Fox News
3. Fox News
4. Donald J Trump
5. Fox News
6. Daily Wire
7. Daily Wire
8. Fox News
9. Donald J. Trump
10. Fox News"

11/21/2019 2:33:24 PM

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It was a terribly unfunny skit, but the AOC thing was definitely not problematic in the context of the skit.

11/21/2019 3:11:56 PM

horosho
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https://www.inquisitr.com/5759952/john-cusack-msnbc-bernie-sanders-boycott/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-23/iowa-s-vilsack-gives-biden-coveted-endorsement-campaign-update
Its time to take the fight to these fake news outlets

#boycottmsnbc

11/25/2019 12:37:09 PM

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#ialreadyboycottmostalltelevisionnews

11/25/2019 3:05:25 PM

NyM410
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Earl and Trump consume more cable news than anyone else on the planet.

11/25/2019 3:57:07 PM

dtownral
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I bet his next conspiracy is that the impeachment is about not letting Sanders campaign because of the senate trial

11/25/2019 5:13:31 PM

horosho
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^^We need to have something on in the background while working and cable news is perfect for that. I also do some NPR, star talk, and sports talk as well. I bounce around.

^Impeachment was always about helping Biden but I think tying up the senate is just a convenient caveat. It doesn't matter. They designed a failsafe in the primary rigging this time by means of a contested convention. They were never going to let Bernie win.

11/26/2019 2:45:56 AM

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" Impeachment was always about helping Biden"


This is legit crazy. All it’s done is keep Hunter in the news. Pelosi is a lot of things but naive isn’t one of them. She knew getting the GOP more airtime = more GOP anti-Biden talking points.

11/26/2019 7:47:55 AM

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lol, i knew he believed that

krystal ball was pushing that narrative that the pelosi and dems are pushing impeachment to keep sanders off the campaign trail

good times

11/26/2019 8:48:07 AM

dtownral
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good investigative reporting twitter thread:
https://twitter.com/hvogell/status/1185231442583924736
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"Lots of folks are trying to get their hands on Trump’s tax returns.

His personal returns are still secret, but I found a work-around to his businesses’ tax filings that revealed those financials didn’t always match what he told a lender.

Here’s how I did it."

11/27/2019 1:36:49 PM

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Speaking of investigative reporting, Bloomberg news announced that they will NOT investigate Mike Bloomberg or ANY of the dem candidates. They will continue to investigate Trump.

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"We will continue our tradition of not investigating Mike (and his family and foundation ) and we will extend the same policy to his rivals in the Democratic primaries. We cannot treat Mike's democratic competitors differently from him," Editor-in-Chief John Micklethwait said in the memo, which was confirmed by a spokesperson."


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"If Bloomberg becomes the Democratic presidential candidate and Trump is the Republican candidate, the news organization will "reassess how to do that," Micklethwait said."

12/2/2019 9:58:50 PM

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maddow sued for saying literally

12/4/2019 7:23:43 PM

horosho
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For a good laugh:
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"1. Kamala Harris: The California senator has held down the top spot in our rankings for five straight months now. She continues to run a practically flawless campaign, a hard thing to do for someone who is doing this for the first time. The only potential hurdle for Harris is the nominating calendar; if she doesn't win, place or show in Iowa or New Hampshire, does that make her less viable in her must-win state of South Carolina? If she can make it that far, the map gets friendlier, with the massive treasure trove of California's delegates waiting in early March. (Previous ranking: 1)"

and CNN is still pushing Chris' fake power rankings based on nothing but corporate agenda. No accountability for lack of credibility.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/07/politics/2020-democrats-rankings/index.html

12/15/2019 2:56:03 PM

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Cilizza was tailor made for Trump. An absolute clown who is obsessed with pop-culture that weird people take seriously. Too bad one is writing shitty, stupid takes for CNN and the other is the president of the most powerful country on earth.

12/15/2019 9:46:15 PM

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https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/19/politics/who-won-democratic-debate/index.html
damn fake news as the main headline on cnn.com? You can't make this the main headline. They let Cilizza tell everyone his personal take on who won the debate. This is not journalism.

12/19/2019 11:38:16 PM

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" Cilizza was tailor made for Trump. An absolute clown who is obsessed with pop-culture that weird people take seriously."

12/20/2019 7:48:48 AM

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lol Cilizza is absolutely one of the dumbest people in media

no one on the left takes him seriously, but he is a prominent feature on one of the largest news organization in the world. this gives you an indication of the actual goal of the media.

[Edited on December 20, 2019 at 7:56 AM. Reason : .]

12/20/2019 7:54:37 AM

horosho
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Its nice to finally see a liberal call out this BS.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/23/julian-castro-blasts-cnn-for-using-an-outdated-poll-in-the-name-of-corporate-interests/

12/26/2019 5:11:28 PM

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agreed

12/26/2019 5:28:36 PM

utowncha
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so basically CNN only exists because of people like earl.

[Edited on December 27, 2019 at 8:47 AM. Reason : "and the corporations, maaan"]

12/27/2019 8:46:57 AM

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CBC's movie edits for time have a liberal bias.

12/27/2019 3:12:58 PM

horosho
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Although the different media outlets have slightly different approaches to the far right, they all hate the far left and shift the overton window by constantly framing basic things as "extreme left".

Fox news frames CNN, MSNBC and anything democrat as "far left"
CNN and MSNBC frame anything slightly left of center as "far left"

Far left voices are rarely represented on any of these networks while far right voices are always placed in juxtaposition with center right voices to represent "both sides".

12/30/2019 10:48:31 PM

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https://twitter.com/nytpolitics/status/1212169086333005824?s=21

The New York Times is completely and irreparably broken.

1/1/2020 8:03:56 PM

utowncha
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jesus

1/2/2020 8:17:58 AM

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I've been on vacation the last week or so, and have been a homebody just hanging out with the fam so I haven't been in the car much, but I did run some errands the other day and just happened to have it on 106.1 because I listen to the local morning show when taking my child to school.

It was sometime after noon and someone was filling in for Rush, I don't remember his name. Someone who considered themselves a moderate called in asking why the right didn't give conservative atheists more consideration. The guy was legitimately concerned that a segment of the conservative population was being ostracized and the guest host was like "you were asked questions by the screener, let through, and are being heard by millions of Americans. Tell me how you're not being heard." It was such an asshole response. Then another guy called in regarding how Trump (and I was schooled on this topic here on tww) was being praised for bringing troops home from the middle east but was really just moving them around. This guy was another conservative who was concerned that Trump really wasn't doing what he said he was. And the host just ignored it and kept talking about how he was bringing troops home.

Done.

1/2/2020 8:30:42 AM

dtownral
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why were you listening to conservative talk radio?

1/2/2020 10:26:58 AM

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I enjoy KC O'day or whatever his name is. That's about it. And I don't really listen to music in the car. I work from home so I'm not in my car much anyways, so I just leave it on the same station all the time.

1/2/2020 11:28:46 AM

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What were you trying say with that (^^^) post?

1/2/2020 11:54:33 AM

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after a quick google, it certainly seems like he’s angling to be the next Morning Zoo radio host to make the leap to dipshit conservative pundit

1/2/2020 12:02:42 PM

dtownral
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rjrumfel literally just pushing the button for another preset will improve your understanding of news and politics

1/2/2020 12:33:22 PM

thegoodlife3
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and his kid

1/3/2020 3:47:39 PM

horosho
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nvm

[Edited on January 4, 2020 at 10:46 PM. Reason : russians got me]

1/4/2020 10:40:12 PM

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I think he’s trying to say that somewhat sensible ideas are penetrating the conservative bubbles they’re just mocked by the gatekeepers. And perhaps there’s hope that maybe conservatives aren’t as fiercely loyal as they seem.

I do recall just after Obama was elected conventional wisdom was republicans were in disarray and lacked organization and there was an effort to reboot with an appeal to religious minorities (particularly Hispanics). This obviously didn’t happen but it does demonstrate how quickly the parties can collapse and rebuild

1/5/2020 1:13:47 AM

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^

1/5/2020 8:36:09 PM

StTexan
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Reminds me of this http://mikemurphycommentary.com/page/tm_iceage.html

1/6/2020 5:02:59 AM

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