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justinh524
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THE CLASSES WEREN'T FAKE.


LOLOLOL

12/25/2018 8:42:01 AM

dmspack
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The “negative recruiting” argument is sooooo weak. It’s just called recruiting. There’s nothing underhanded or dirty about a recruiting pitch that involves “hey unc is under investigation they might get major penalties”. Can we start crying about negative recruiting because Roy Williams brags about his NCAA titles to recruits and Keatts doesn’t have any?

12/26/2018 7:50:02 AM

NCSUMEB
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"Waiting for everyone to wake up on Christmas morning, and decided to subject myself to some holiday bullshit. There's a discussion about State basketball actually being a threat right now, and someone said no need to worry because we'll get taken down by infractions. Here's one guy's take when a State fan said UNC got away with years of cheating.

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"The Heels weren’t fortunate at all. The classes weren’t fake (despite what Dan Kane “reported”), no NCAA rules were violated, and the Heels suffered through 7 ridiculous years of NCAA investigation and the negative recruiting that came with it. Lolstate just straight up cheated by directly paying for players. Will the fack even have a basketball program after lolstate gets the SMU treatment?""


When one makes the claim the classes were not fake you simultaneously are stating that Rashad McAnts LIED about the fake classes and that he indeed, did make the Dean's List. This is impossible to even begin a logical claim to much less a full rebuttal. When you flip a coin, it cannot land both on heads and tails. The only other claim I've heard is that McAnts did indeed cheat and he's telling the truth about himself with tutors writing his papers but he's the only one. However, having tutors write your papers would have made McAnts ineligible so...

I haven't really run across any more UNC grads that have used any other defense thatnthe entire university was doing it so it's fine, the old line from the NCAA. Program aside (i.e. ncaaT bans), not sure how individual players weren't deemed ineligible though and retroactively stripping wins/titles.

12/26/2018 11:22:53 AM

AstralEngine
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Just go all in on the "we didn't pay players anything, Adidas did. They're not under the jurisdiction of the NCAA soooooooo" defense

12/26/2018 5:14:50 PM

justinh524
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Adidas paid regular students too, so it's fine.

12/26/2018 5:22:18 PM

ncsuallday
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Some interesting chatter on IC. Finally getting some respect over there (or at least Keatts is).

This made me lol:

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"Heartwarming to see 9 guys who grew up dreaming of someday transferring to State get their wish."


https://247sports.com/college/north-carolina/Board/102713/Contents/NcSt-127289794/

1/4/2019 11:34:02 AM

dmspack
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"You can bet they’ll play their best game against us."


lol I love this from IC. Do y’all not remember winning like 19/21 games or something close to that? Beating us by 50+? The 13 point half? Hell, more than anything it could be argued that we usually get UNC’s and not the other way around. UNC has mostly owned us and lol at them acting like “aw shucks they’ll get their act together when they play us”

1/4/2019 12:14:18 PM

WolfMiami
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^agreed, would also argue the exact opposite of "UNC gets our best game" theory.

Would agree that we are "up" for the game, and the energy level is typically there, but much like playing in a pairing with Tiger in his prime (especially in the final round), where the competitor stroke average was 2-3 shots higher than normal, I would say we typically play worse against the heels in the aggregate.

1/4/2019 5:20:26 PM

TreeTwista10
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This will be UNC's bowl game

1/4/2019 5:31:20 PM

ncsuallday
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"Yes, the wolpies usually are in over their heads when playing the Heels. And my 'D' has been on point all week, so it's on the rest of y'all if peckers start popping."


???

1/7/2019 12:28:35 PM

dtownral
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i think he's saying that when they all start taking poppers, a drug used to facilitate anal sex that's popular in the gay hookup scene, his dick is ready for the party

1/7/2019 12:37:53 PM

ncsuallday
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"^agreed, would also argue the exact opposite of "UNC gets our best game" theory."


you'd be correct, statistically speaking.

I thought this was an interesting question, so I plugged in the numbers since UNC has had Roy (2004). I took UNC and State's average points scored and average points allowed for each season, and took the difference between what they scored in their games each respective year.



From 2004-2018, on average, UNC played pretty much the exact same as their yearly means, whereas State played considerably worse, scoring about 4 fewer points while allowing about 13 more than the mean.

Unsurprisingly, we play worse in the Dean Dome (8 less scored; 11 more allowed) than in PNC (.5 more points scored; 14 more allowed). UNC actually plays worse there as well (1.4 points less scored; 4.2 more points allowed).

When the heels come to Raleigh we score slightly more (.5 points) but give up more than when we play in the Dome (14.4 points). The Heels actually seem to play better against us in Raleigh (1.9 more points scored; 4.4 more given up).

tl;dr - we play worse against UNC and they seem to play better against us, even more so in Raleigh

[Edited on January 7, 2019 at 3:44 PM. Reason : spelling]

1/7/2019 3:39:55 PM

wdprice3
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Imma need a confidence level on those stats, bro.

1/8/2019 9:30:45 AM

ncsuallday
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NCSU Points For Diff = -3.8 (95% CI -7.74 to 0.14)
NCSU Points Against Diff = -12.7 (95% CI -17.3 to -8.08)
UNC Points For Diff = 0.2 (95% CI -4.34 to 4.74)
UNC Points Against Diff = 0.1 (95% CI -3.59 to 3.79)

1/8/2019 12:05:35 PM

wdprice3
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haha, YOU DA MAN

1/8/2019 1:01:49 PM

packboozie
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Former UNC OC Kliff Kingsbury is getting the Arizona Cardinals job

1/8/2019 3:11:21 PM

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