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rjrumfel
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So is anyone going to give back any of that 50,000,000 that SBF donated?

12/14/2022 1:31:45 PM

The Coz
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If you "invested" in this vaporware, do you really have a case? Political figures should return the donations, though.

12/14/2022 9:04:32 PM

thegoodlife3
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"Or maybe the party's crazies have moved the party out from underneath her, using Trumpism as a cover for ideas and notions that are largely unpalatable to the nation and which would get them throttled in the absence of Trumpism"


still waiting on some examples from aaronburro

12/15/2022 10:25:51 PM

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Come on guys. We're in our 40s

12/15/2022 11:29:08 PM

StTexan
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^i agree

12/16/2022 4:51:14 AM

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^^
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Speak for yourselves. I'm a spry 39!

12/16/2022 5:38:23 AM

aaronburro
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-10 for releasing Cheeto's taxes and proving his lawyers right: there was never any legitimate legislative intent behind obtaining them and Democrats just wanted to make them public. It was nothing but petty partisan bickering.

12/30/2022 11:01:17 AM

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He was the one who broke precedent and refused to release them. So they forced release of something that has been voluntarily by all predecessors for decades. So what. It should be required. Small price to pay for the power and trust endowed.

12/30/2022 1:08:02 PM

aaronburro
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Of course it should be required, but it's not at the moment. So pass a damn law and make it required (and for senators and congressmen, too), and then call the shitty Republicans' bluff and make them stand on the floor of the Senate and embarrass themselves like Strom Thurmond did.

But what you don't do is abuse an existing law in such a way that makes it possible to enact political retribution under the bullshit excuse of "legislative purpose" on others by publicly disclosing financial documents the government requires every citizen to file every year. That's just not how you do it, especially when you've got someone as venal as Bitch McConnell ready and completely willing to use that weapon against you.

Oh, and why the fuck did it take them 2 years to figure out that Cheeto hadn't been audited. Is that part of the tax returns?

12/30/2022 5:17:26 PM

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He doesn't get to just skate by because there's not an existing law.

I understand your points, but I'm still glad it happened. Orange Man Bad and all that. Because he is.

12/30/2022 7:38:05 PM

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Of course he does. That's how rights and law are supposed to work.

12/30/2022 8:06:44 PM

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But this guy, this is not my kind of guy. He busted every norm there was, so excuse me for not panicking because Congress forced something that by all accounts should have happened anyway. Have Republicans ever been stopped by not having a precedent for doing something? They're going to run amok no matter what. Seems better to expose the truth about his taxes in the hope that it breaks the spell on a few more idiots who view him as a business genius because he had a reality show or whatever. Maybe someone whose life isn't so easy will legitimately wonder why they pay more taxes than a supposed billionaire who wants to make America great again.

12/30/2022 11:04:13 PM

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Anyone who doesn't already realize that Trump is a conman isn't going to change their minds over this. They've already drunk far too much orange semen to be reasoned with at this point.

Of course Trump is shitty. Of course he's different. But that rationalization for breaking norms has led us to where we are today. The pressure attempt on Pence to overturn the election doesn't likely happen if democrats hadn't gone apeshit in 2000 and 2016 with their "symbolic protests", giving cover to the Trumtards' efforts. Chuck Schumer's ridiculous statements about a SC justice dying in an election year gave McConnell cover for his shameless action against Garland.

I suspect that no later than June, the Republicans will be demanding Hunter Biden's tax returns, at a minimum, under the guise of "investigating legislative options for handling potential audits of the children of Pres and VP." And I don't expect them to stop there. All in the hopes that idiots stupid enough to buy NFTs based on stock photos with Trump superimposed on them will suddenly find enough lucidity to realize he's always been a fraud? Get the fuck out of here.

Democrats need to stop throwing lit matches on the floor in the hopes of persuading Republicans to stop wielding blowtorches and spraying gasoline everywhere. It's not fucking working. McConnell is playing them like a God dammed fiddle at this point

12/31/2022 1:01:02 AM

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Bitch McConnell is 80 years old and not currently in power. He's a gamesman for sure, but there's at least some evidence that he retains a tiny bit of respect for institutions and norms. I don't care if they investigate Hunter Biden. He's a crackhead and a criminal. But he's not the President, and he doesn't hold political office. I don't love it when criminals are able to hide behind technicalities and game the system.

As far as what Democrats did, why are you adopting Trump's talking points as if they are legitimate?

12/31/2022 7:50:07 AM

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"The pressure attempt on Pence to overturn the election doesn't likely happen if democrats hadn't gone apeshit in 2000 and 2016 with their "symbolic protests", giving cover to the Trumtards' efforts. "


12/31/2022 10:02:51 AM

thegoodlife3
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this is his coping mechanism

12/31/2022 11:36:30 AM

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"Anyone who doesn't already realize that Trump is a conman isn't going to change their minds over this. They've already drunk far too much orange semen to be reasoned with at this point.

Of course Trump is shitty. Of course he's different. But that rationalization for breaking norms has led us to where we are today. The pressure attempt on Pence to overturn the election doesn't likely happen if democrats hadn't gone apeshit in 2000 and 2016 with their "symbolic protests", giving cover to the Trumtards' efforts. Chuck Schumer's ridiculous statements about a SC justice dying in an election year gave McConnell cover for his shameless action against Garland.

I suspect that no later than June, the Republicans will be demanding Hunter Biden's tax returns, at a minimum, under the guise of "investigating legislative options for handling potential audits of the children of Pres and VP." And I don't expect them to stop there. All in the hopes that idiots stupid enough to buy NFTs based on stock photos with Trump superimposed on them will suddenly find enough lucidity to realize he's always been a fraud? Get the fuck out of here.

Democrats need to stop throwing lit matches on the floor in the hopes of persuading Republicans to stop wielding blowtorches and spraying gasoline everywhere. It's not fucking working. McConnell is playing them like a God dammed fiddle at this point"


You are an absolute fool for believing that Republicans would (or might) not have done those things without the presence of those Democratic actions that Republicans used as "justifications". Those Democratic actions were simply used as convenient excuses to justify their behavior to the public; had they not existed, other excuses would have been used as cover for those actions they were already determined to take.

12/31/2022 4:36:11 PM

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Didn't the Democrats have to go through a number of court battles just to obtain Donald Trump's tax returns?

If Republicans are able to provide sufficient justification to the courts that would allow them to obtain Hunter Biden's tax returns, then so be it.

1/1/2023 1:20:30 PM

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"Trump strikes me as a bad person. In many ways, he is not very different than many of the people I encountered as a federal prosecutor. He is greedy, dishonest, self-centered, narcissistic and reckless. But all the people we prosecuted deserved to be treated fairly for legal, ethical and moral reasons, and they deserved to be treated fairly all the time, whether or not we liked them. We cannot reserve fair treatment for people we like and unfair treatment for people we dislike. That would be a death spiral for our judicial system and for our democracy."


https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/01/01/trump-tax-returns-should-not-release-00075989

1/2/2023 12:21:41 AM

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The Coz, you've got more respect for McConnell than I do, then. I've seen him as singularly indifferent to norms, second in that aspect only to Trump. He's been more than willing to blow past norms to get his agenda through, but as I see it, he's always used Democrats' short-term thinking to do it. He's always playing a long game, and he consistently is able to goad democrats into making changes that he then takes advantage of when he's back in power.

And it's not that the things democrats do are reasonable justifications for his escalations. They aren't. But they give him cover and allow him to effectively shift the Overton Window of what is acceptable in ways that he would not be able to had Democrats not taken his bait. And the fact is he's going to probably have another run at majority leader shortly, so don't think he's done scheming. I suspect he's going to goad Dems into getting rid of the filibuster completely over something inconsequential so he can come in afterwards and pass a nationwide abortion ban and probably overturn Obergefell, too.

1/2/2023 12:49:42 AM

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"And it's not that the things democrats do are reasonable justifications for his escalations. They aren't."


They are not necessary justifications, either.

McConnell would have blocked Garland regardless of whether or not Biden made a stray remark back in 1992, for example.

[Edited on January 2, 2023 at 1:01 AM. Reason : ]

1/2/2023 12:58:37 AM

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Oh, I don't respect Mitch McConnell at all. But he eventually stopped going along with every single crazy thing Trump wanted to do, so that's why I described him as having a "tiny bit of respect for institutions and norms". Him having respect for something is not the same as me respecting him. But why are you going along with this idea that Trump was treated "so unfairly"? He's the one who always says that. The guy's objectively a criminal.

1/2/2023 1:43:42 PM

aaronburro
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"still waiting on some examples from aaronburro"

Been a bit busy with stuff, but here's an example for you...
"Equity" and "equal outcomes for all", aka, the war on merit.
https://wjla.com/amp/news/crisis-in-the-classrooms/fairfax-county-virginia-va-school-board-dr-michelle-reid-national-merit-award-recognition-scholarship-controversy-glenn-youngkin-investigation-school-meeting-fcps-college-admission-reporting-thomas-jefferson-langley-westfield-john-r-lewis-edison-high

TL;DR, dem-led County in NOVA hires an equity consultant who tells the school board to be "purposefully unequal," so they fuck over thousands of students by withholding National Merit Commendations from students do as not to "hurt the feelings" of kids who didn't earn them. School board is claiming "human error"... across at least 7 different high schools

1/18/2023 12:30:49 PM

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Can you provide an example at the national, or even state, level? You implied that the "crazies" run "the party" in a way that Sinema must run. Surely that means something higher than a county school board.

1/18/2023 12:54:09 PM

thegoodlife3
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we all know the saying, “as the Fairfax County, Virginia school board goes, so goes the country”

1/18/2023 1:50:26 PM

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^lol

1/18/2023 4:07:47 PM

rwoody
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Arizona is a plurality state so Sinema running independent could make it an easy pickup for Republicans

1/24/2023 8:49:52 AM

aaronburro
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Well, it's now been confirmed across high schools in no less than 4 counties so far. And given that it's entirely in keeping with hyper-progressive rhetoric about equity (tests are racist, 2+2=4 is racist, homework is racist, etc), you can't just brush it off when some fools actually start doing it.

1/24/2023 1:58:39 PM

rwoody
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Still not relevant to your original claim

1/24/2023 2:22:48 PM

thegoodlife3
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yep, gonna have to throw a penalty flag on that one

1/24/2023 2:35:08 PM

moron
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^^^^^^^^
Doesn’t seem like a big deal. Is that commendation something that actually matters or like a participation trophy kinda thing? School might have made the right decision.

1/27/2023 11:48:38 PM

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