what is smh? i see black people say it on facebook a lot

9/25/2011 11:08:35 PM

Stalling My Honda

9/25/2011 11:12:09 PM

I generally respect those two dudes (jadn and Joel) but their posts on the last page are so full of smh I'm still facepalming hours later

the only thing I can figure is that the females in their group got cunty about the menu and these guys got caught up in the estrogen-fueled group outrage

that or it's a pretty expertly executed troll

[Edited on September 25, 2011 at 11:12 PM. Reason : I'm black]

9/25/2011 11:12:17 PM

Shitting Meat Hummus

9/25/2011 11:15:06 PM

look at all you morons defending what amounts to an overpriced chicken shack



you can troll all you want - the fact of the matter is that I can get better chicken for less of a cost and I don't have to act like I'm sucking some great "chef's" asshole while doing it

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"That's because most tdubbers haven't been to Poole's. If this was a 9-page long thread about it (and I know we've talked about it in the thread but that's not the point), they'd complain about it just the same, especially since it's more expensive. "Dinner" food can't be expensive?!?!?! Fried chicken that's not some greasy toss-around from the drive-thru window? ABSURD!"

I've been to Poole's several times. It is good food, but the pricing is ludicrous. Poole's also has rotating entrees, from what i remember, so the whole "5 dishes and no one ever complains" comment is completely the fuck invalid.

I'm sorry you downtown Raleigh bourgeois are so offended because I'm calling shit like it actually is.

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 7:48 AM. Reason : you'retoo busy trying to be too cool for everyone else and not realizing how fucking stupid you look]

9/26/2011 7:32:20 AM

Heh, okay. Presumptuous judgments are really the only way to go.

9/26/2011 7:42:44 AM

Says the guy acting like a total asshole when anyone says anything bad about his beloved overpriced chicken shack




Chicken $hack






although I really shouldn't even bother with this..... it's the natural progression of gentrification


area gets bought up by rich people, they open up things that generally drive the cost of living up and up... people get priced out and move away from downtown areas. I just didn't think Raleigh was at the stage of overpricing standard shit for the sake of "location" yet. Apparently, I was wrong. over the course of the next 10-15 years, you'll see a few more places spring up downtown, with the prices getting ever more ludicrous, and then you'll start to see people migrating away again. You raving over overpriced chicken is just part of the cycle, and you're just too fucking dumb to see it

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 7:55 AM. Reason : .]

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 7:56 AM. Reason : lol bigman]

9/26/2011 7:51:30 AM

pouring honey onto harris teeter fried chicken makes it fancy man, get with the times jadn

9/26/2011 7:52:47 AM

I READ ABOUT IT ON NEWRALEIGH SO IT HAS TO BE GOOD

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 7:58 AM. Reason : fucking sheep]

9/26/2011 7:58:20 AM

I usually respect WillemJoel's opinion on topic's such as this because of his background in the industry...but it definitely sounds like this is the case:

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"the only thing I can figure is that the females in their group got cunty about the menu and these guys got caught up in the estrogen-fueled group outrage "

What exactly were you expecting??

Oh...and this:

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"come the fuck on. someone has been blowing way too much smoke up Ashley Christensen's ass for her to think that people are going to frequent a place with THREE main dishes, one of which you can only get late night or all day on sunday."

Apparently it's working. Isn't this place doing well? Wonder who is right here...

9/26/2011 8:06:27 AM

jadn in full troll mode now

yawn

9/26/2011 8:09:18 AM

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""That's because most tdubbers haven't been to Poole's. If this was a 9-page long thread about it (and I know we've talked about it in the thread but that's not the point), they'd complain about it just the same, especially since it's more expensive. "Dinner" food can't be expensive?!?!?! Fried chicken that's not some greasy toss-around from the drive-thru window? ABSURD!""

I've been to Poole's many times, and I used to also be the mayor on Foursquare/Yelp (used to be anyhow). In my opinion Poole's is one of a few places in the city to get an honest meal (the other being Capital Club 16) but I'm a tad conflicted about it. They use local ingredients I would feed my kids if I had any. It's also very well prepared consistently, but it's nothing more than that. In San Francisco places like Poole's are a dime a dozen. Everyone there uses high quality local ingredients and is generally adept enough to make a decent meal. Most of the restaurants there are less than the Poole's price point in that category. At Poole's price point you should expect something a little more than just roast chicken and mashed potatoes. Dining out shouldn't be something a decent home cook can pull off at home. Poole's should be the base expectation of dining out, not the pinnacle. There are several restaurants in the area at the same price point, Lantern and Magnolia Grill, that upon dining I have no idea how they do what they do. They usually have multiple clearly labor intensive sauces/veggies in a single dish. All of which are amazing on their own and even more amazing in combination.

9/26/2011 8:12:23 AM

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"Dining out shouldn't be something a decent home cook can pull off at home."

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"Dining out shouldn't be something a decent home cook can pull off at home."

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"Dining out shouldn't be something a decent home cook can pull off at home."

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"Dining out shouldn't be something a decent home cook can pull off at home."

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"Dining out shouldn't be something a decent home cook can pull off at home."

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"Dining out shouldn't be something a decent home cook can pull off at home."

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"Dining out shouldn't be something a decent home cook can pull off at home."

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"Dining out shouldn't be something a decent home cook can pull off at home."

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"Dining out shouldn't be something a decent home cook can pull off at home."

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"Dining out shouldn't be something a decent home cook can pull off at home."

x a billion

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"Apparently it's working. Isn't this place doing well? Wonder who is right here..."

it's been open for less than 6 months. once the "new" wears off, we'll see what happens.


[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 8:20 AM. Reason : .]

9/26/2011 8:16:44 AM

some bitch has really fucked you up

or you've got more bitch in you than I thought

things are worth what people will pay for them

you stay home and fry your chicken, bitch, and let these people eat their hipster chicken in peace

9/26/2011 8:19:39 AM

I love how you try to rile me up


not gonna work

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"hipster chicken"

http://www.neatorama.com/2011/03/31/chicken-coop-for-hipster-chicken/

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 8:22 AM. Reason : .]

http://www.youtube.com/user/hipsterchicken

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 8:22 AM. Reason : also]

9/26/2011 8:21:04 AM

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"Dining out shouldn't be something a decent home cook can pull off at home."

I agree...to a certain extent. I'm lucky I live in a city where there are so many places that pull this off. But I also like to go out because I don't feel like cooking (or the lady doesn't). I don't feel like picking a recipe, going to the grocery store and picking out the few ingredients I don't have, spending the actual time cooking, and then cleaning up afterwards. I'd rather sit down at a nice restaurant, have a nice conversation with my girlfriend without having to keep an eye on the grill/clean shrimp/grate cheese/etc., and drink a nice wine that I can't find retail.

I don't have to be blown away with every dining experience.

9/26/2011 8:26:12 AM

^^This isn't you riled up?

Everyone else has been level-headed and you're off on some weird unprovoked tantrum.

9/26/2011 9:25:50 AM

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"Everyone else has been level-headed and you're off on some weird unprovoked tantrum."

Black dude.
White woman.
Fried chicken.

It's like a perfect storm.

9/26/2011 9:33:14 AM

oh wow

so many misses here

no one got "cunty" (I LOVE when TWWers contrive scenarios out of thin air).. .in fact, we felt bad for sitting, getting our waters, going over and over whether or not we wanted chicken, or a biscuit (or both!), apologizing to our very nice waitress, and leaving.

I can't wrap my head around why you people can't wrap your head around why we wanted more to choose from than chicken, or a biscuit.

This discourse alone on these last two pages clearly indicates to me that this IS, in fact, a jerk-off event for this lady.

I have NOOOO DOUBT that this shit is absolutely delicious. But, out of 9 people, it was just infinitely easier to walk up to Times, where we didn't all have to subscribe to the same thing.

You people crack me the hell up.

If this is what it takes for you kiddies to discredit my opinion, then, so be it. I'll be back to Beasley's. But, seriously, let's not get too caught up in unfounded derivation. I'm sure some of you probably know the waitstaff there, and can confirm the absence of "cunty" women if you please.

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 9:38 AM. Reason : facepalm city, baby]

9/26/2011 9:34:54 AM

I don't think anyone thought much of your assessment. You said you at least wanted to try it anyway. People were mostly reacting to kiljadn's weird blanket assumptions (or trolling, I never know with him).

9/26/2011 9:37:10 AM

Yeah? I found two instances of people suddenly devaluing my opinion, because of my opinion. lol.

9/26/2011 9:38:55 AM

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"No, it's not. If you go to a place called "Chicken and Honey", you should probably expect that the menu will consist of chicken and honey."

really? can you really not think of any other establishments that tout one or two items, and serve countless others? or, are you trolling, too?

Ruckus Pizza and Bar

HOLY GODDAMNIT YOU HAVE SALADS AND WRAPS AND SUBS AND STROMBOLIS AND CALZONES?! I AM BLOWN THE FUCK AWAY

9/26/2011 9:40:53 AM

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"I can't wrap my head around why you people can't wrap your head around why we wanted more to choose from than chicken, or a biscuit. "

I think we were confused as to why you didn't already know that this was pretty much all this place service. With the exception of not being able to get the waffles...that's all this place is...chicken and sides. It's like going to a pizza place, sitting down and ordering waters, and then going, "You know, we thought this place was going to have more than pizza...we're going somewhere else with more options."

And I'm not jerkin the lady off. I've never eaten at one of her establishments. I do, however, love fried chicken. It's probably my most favorite thing to eat in the world. My sister must take me to this place next time I get back to Raleigh.

9/26/2011 9:42:27 AM

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"that's what you get for visiting an establishment that doesn't care about serving your demographic "

and I'm curious about this, too. Feel free to call me and explain to me "my demographic". 919-604-0339

^so, the sin I committed at the expense of this Holy place is merely not knowing it was literally just chicken and honey. And sides, of course. Most of which looked delightful.

I can take that.

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 9:45 AM. Reason : thanks, folks.]

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 9:46 AM. Reason : Beasley's Chicken, Honey, and Sides, and Drinks?]

9/26/2011 9:43:43 AM

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"really? can you really not think of any other establishments that tout one or two items, and serve countless others? or, are you trolling, too? Ruckus Pizza and Bar HOLY GODDAMNIT YOU HAVE SALADS AND WRAPS AND SUBS AND STROMBOLIS AND CALZONES?! I AM BLOWN THE FUCK AWAY"

I certainly don't go to a place that's known for one food item, get there, get flumoxed by the fact that it's the only thing on the menu and not order it.

(Also, I've never ordered anything not pizza at either Ruckus)

9/26/2011 9:46:13 AM

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"so, the sin I committed at the expense of this Holy place is merely not knowing it was literally just chicken and honey. "

Pretty much.

9/26/2011 9:46:25 AM

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"so, the sin I committed at the expense of this Holy place is merely not knowing it was literally just chicken and honey"

it's probably for the best, as the lack of the word "flavor" in the business's name was apparently intentional

9/26/2011 9:49:41 AM

^^^if you have any culinary aptitude whatsoever, you understand that you can do a huge variety of things with chicken. that is what I expected, honestly. And, sure, when you go to a pizza place, it's probably because you want pizza. I cannot tell you how many times people have come to Ruckus in a group, and some wanted pizza, while others wanted chicken wings. We do not have chicken wings, and they often leave. I'd say it happens once per month, just when I'm here. When that does happen, we don't get upset. We say, "I wish this fryer was bigger than 2 gallons so we could make chicken wings."

Point is, you people.

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 9:52 AM. Reason : fasdss3]

9/26/2011 9:50:38 AM

To WillemJoel's defense I don't think I've been anywhere, except maybe ice cream shops, that had only one thing on the menu. Even then ice cream places have lots of flavors and sometimes cookies to choose from.

I like the idea of having focused menus. If a place has 100 choices you know they don't make shit from scratch, instead buying things frozen premade from US Foodservice. I CAN MAKE MICROWAVE FOOD AT HOME MYSELF. WHEN I PAY YOU TO COOK I EXPECT YOU TO ACTUALLY COOK IT.

9/26/2011 9:52:00 AM

IHOP

THESE MOTHERFUCKERS GOT EGGS

9/26/2011 9:53:28 AM

I'm just saying that I live over 4 hours away and I know that's all that you can get at this place. No one out of the 9 people that you took to this place knew that??

9/26/2011 9:55:32 AM

so to play devils advocate

thinking of places named by the food they served and all....didn't most place start with those basics (chicken & honey...pizza and bar) and then add to the menu?

or do you think they all started with an expansive menu out the gate?

serious question

9/26/2011 9:57:09 AM

^

Given today you can open a restaurant and get delivery's from Sysco or US Food Service with an expansive menu, yes of course. It's how the modern restaurant industry works. If you are making everything from scratch that's another matter.

9/26/2011 9:58:40 AM

word that makes sense

9/26/2011 10:00:29 AM

^^^^so you've read up on your Beasley's, then. You do realize the only point you're making, and even attempting to make, is that you know about Beasley's, right? Which kinda makes Nick's point that you kids are fan boys from the get-go. Which is fine, of course, but you can't expect everyone to just arbitrarily get the scoop on every restaurant that opens up downtown. If I had known it was just chicken and honey, I would've said, "hey, you guys want some chicken and honey", instead of saying "hey, let's try Beasley's, I've heard good things". And, out of the 9 of us who went, only Nick and I had heard of the place (6 people were here from out of town). So, living 4 hours away and knowing the ins and outs of something is of no consequence to me.

^^^I can only speak on Ruckus' behalf, and we've always had subs.


[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 10:04 AM. Reason : dfd]

9/26/2011 10:01:37 AM

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"downtown Raleigh bourgeois"

9/26/2011 10:08:22 AM

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"so you've read up on your Beasley's, then. You do realize the only point you're making, and even attempting to make, is that you know about Beasley's, right? Which kinda makes Nick's point that you kids are fan boys from the get-go"

I'm a Beasley's fanboy because I read a thread on t-dub about it?? I don't know anyone personally that's eaten there nor have I done any research on the place (or their chef) other than read this thread. The only arguing I've done in this thread is to defend restaurants in general by some of the blanket statements that have been made about this place.

It seems that you're upset because you didn't have the general knowledge about this place that would have prevented the situation that you and your friends encountered yesterday. General knowledge that someone who also runs a restaurant in the same town and reads the message board should have acquired in the past month.

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 10:16 AM. Reason : .]

9/26/2011 10:16:07 AM

I checked it out this weekend and I, too, was generally unimpressed. I knew that it was just chicken and honey but I suspected there may be more than two main options on a the menu. Also, the chicken wasn't that good for the price point. Its the same reason why I don't go to the pit. The food is a southern stable that can be cooked by many, taste better and cost far less. I get it, being trendy is cool but there is a point where an idea just becomes fucking stupid.

Poole's is great and isn't even in the same category as Beasley's. Fox and Chuck are fine by me but BCnH is a waste of space and time.

9/26/2011 10:46:25 AM

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"I can't wrap my head around why you people can't wrap your head around why we wanted more to choose from than chicken, or a biscuit. "

I'm curious to know what else you were expecting on the menu.

9/26/2011 10:50:50 AM

^most restaurants have more than two things to choose from.

9/26/2011 11:03:10 AM

Oh fuck why did I think this would pan out any other way than people just having a pissing contest.

Goddamn Chit Chat this is why we can't have nice things.

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 11:14 AM. Reason : f]

9/26/2011 11:13:49 AM

I will say I wasn't really floored by Fox's. Really cool location and they do a lot of neat things with their drinks, but even with it not being overly crowded, it still took forever to get drinks.

Nothing another bartender or two wouldn't solve though.

9/26/2011 11:17:25 AM

No pissing contest. I'm being told by a couple of people that based on some cosmic unknown default, I should not have expected more menu items than chicken and a biscuit. I'm merely using my brain, based on 15 or so years of dining out.

that's all.

And, I'm being berated by folks who think it's perfectly fine for Beasley's to only serve what is touted in the name, while unquantifiable amounts of dining institutions serve well beyond what is mentioned in its name.

Ah, well. I'll be there to eat at some point. But it'll be when i have a very, very specific yearning for fried chicken and waffles. And honey.

I will add that it was a cool fucking place, aesthetically.

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"I'm curious to know what else you were expecting on the menu. "

is it really, really beyond the realm of general understanding that maybe chicken and honey are the cornerstone ingredients? Nay, their specialty, merely? Sweet fucking motherfucking Christ you people have to be trolling me.

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 11:20 AM. Reason : asdfsdsss]

9/26/2011 11:18:07 AM

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"Oh fuck why did I think this would pan out any other way than people just having a pissing contest."

It's fucking Chit Chat. And a topic that people in every day, non-internet life will argue heatedly about. What did you expect?

9/26/2011 11:20:23 AM

Ok, lets make this scientific. Take my poll.

Food: OMFG THIS SHIT TASTES WORSE THAN ROADKILL <1-------10> OMFG THIS IS THE BEST FOOD EVER

Price: IS THIS SHIT SOLID GOLD? <1-------10> POOR PEOPLE COULD EAT HERE EVERYDAY

Atmosphere: FEELS LIKE I'M ON TDUB IRL <1-------10> TRENDY AND FRIENDLY PLACE TO GO

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 11:21 AM. Reason : ]

9/26/2011 11:21:26 AM

The difference here is no one is arguing about quality.

I'm being told I offered a review of a restaurant I didn't even sample. My review was, essentially, "this wasn't what I was expecting. We had a large group to feed, who also didn't know what to expect. It turned out to not be what we wanted at the time. We thought, 'wow, it really is just chicken and honey! That's cute. We'll come back when we want fried chicken and honey'. So, we left, amicably".

Which, to me, means that some of you don't know how to articulate an argument outside of a few key obtuse terms.

You kids amaze me, often.

9/26/2011 11:24:30 AM

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"The difference here is no one is arguing about quality."

Quality is not the only thing to argue about concerning a restaurant. Menu selection is a pretty common topic. Which is what you brought up.

I'm struggling with the fact that for some reason you feel you are beyond reproach for not knowing a common fact that most people that go to this restaurant know (and a lot that don't go).

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"I'm being told I offered a review of a restaurant I didn't even sample."

I don't think you offered a review. You just made a critique on their menu offerings, and that because of that menu offering you chose a different spot. Most of the replies to your post have been, "You should have known what they offered before you got there." I don't see why you're getting so agitated.

9/26/2011 11:34:58 AM

yeah most people have the menu memorized before they step into a restaurant for the first time.

9/26/2011 11:47:06 AM

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"I read plenty of reviews, it just shocks me how many people post highly specific, individual, for the most part one-off experiences with waiters, staff etc on food review sites and tell others not to go."

How did this go unchallenged?

If a restaurant gives a ton of other customers a bad experience you'd be a fool not to take their reviews into consideration. It's one of the key ways recurring problems can be identified and avoided. Don't be naive.

[Edited on September 26, 2011 at 12:17 PM. Reason : s]

9/26/2011 12:09:55 PM

^

I was wondering if he has the same feeling for positive experiences.

9/26/2011 12:46:06 PM