Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/dana-boente-senior-federal-prosecutor-obama-holdover-submits-resignation-n815331
Quote : | "On Wednesday, Boente was notified by the chief of staff to Attorney General Jeff Sessions that he should submit his letter of resignation, so that the political process for naming a successor could begin." |
I'm sure the timing has nothing to do with it - he's on top of all kinds of appointments this year right? Not behind on any other, perhaps more important, appointments?
Trump already removing prosecutors in the districts he may be charged in. Gotta love it.
[Edited on October 28, 2017 at 10:04 PM. Reason : a]10/28/2017 9:47:47 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
It’s amazing how fragile democracy really is.
All it would take for trump to get away with murder would be for republicans to hold the house and more pro trump extremists to replace the senators resigning. In districts electing republicans, are they going for moderates...?
If Ginsburg ends up retiring we could see decades of progress on civil rights, women’s rights, environmental policy get undone.
No matter what mueller finds for it to have a real impact voters would need to make the right choices. 10/29/2017 1:38:55 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
So Manafort and Rick Gates are the first to fall
Paul Manafort, Who Once Ran Trump Campaign, Told to Surrender https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/us/politics/paul-manafort-indicted.html
Here is background on Rick Gates: How the Russia Investigation Entangled a Manafort Protégé https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/16/us/politics/rick-gates-russia.html 10/30/2017 8:21:33 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
this is so fucking huge and it’s going to be both hilarious and sick to watch the spin 10/30/2017 8:36:40 AM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
10/30/2017 9:03:37 AM |
nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
over/under on Trump pardoning him if he were convicted? 10/30/2017 9:09:53 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Those charges seem prettt fucking serious.
And honestly, I see this ending very, very badly. Sessions/Trump are going to be working overtime to get HRC and Obama on something. You can see it coming. I hope our institutions hold..
[Edited on October 30, 2017 at 9:21 AM. Reason : Twitter tells me the conspiracy charge isn’t as bad as it sounds] 10/30/2017 9:18:17 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Perhaps we need a new thread for the Mueller investigation, because it seems to me that the charges against Manafort and Gates are serious yes, but have nothing to do with Russia. 10/30/2017 9:27:46 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I mean, the head of the Trump campaign was engaged in money laundering with pro-Moscow Ukrainians. It seems at least tangentially related but your post is actually exactly what the WH talking points are.. 10/30/2017 9:33:22 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
^^manafort has signficant ties to russia, and the indictment itself is about one of those (hiding pro-russian ukraine payments)
[Edited on October 30, 2017 at 9:35 AM. Reason : ^this] 10/30/2017 9:35:12 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Well, the key will be what information Manafort has.
WH claims he's got no info, but if he does, it could be country-changing.
But as the charges currently stand, there are still no official ties.
[Edited on October 30, 2017 at 9:38 AM. Reason : sdfa] 10/30/2017 9:37:40 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
don't forget the blackmail texts: https://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/paul-manafort-blackmail-russia-trump-235275
we now know the payments were real, and they claim that trump had direct meetings with pro-russian ukrainian assets, which then connects to trump's pro-russia ukrain peace plan, and pushing for a russian friendly GOP platform position regarding crimea, and also ties back to flynn, etc...
all this shit is related
[Edited on October 30, 2017 at 9:49 AM. Reason : .] 10/30/2017 9:48:01 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
It's not just laundering. There's conspiracy charges too 10/30/2017 10:14:04 AM |
MONGO All American 599 Posts user info edit post |
Nothing in there about Trump and his campaign though... right? 10/30/2017 10:23:15 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
^So far just his CAMPAIGN MANAGER. 10/30/2017 10:27:58 AM |
MONGO All American 599 Posts user info edit post |
I get that, I'm not trying to be intentionally obtuse. Just pointing out the charges didn't mention anything about Trump's campaign.
In related news, George Papadopoulos pleads guilty to lying to FBI agents in Mueller probe. 10/30/2017 10:32:50 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
And copped a plea deal and answered questions for the investigation.
That seems to be a bombshell to me... flipped?
[Edited on October 30, 2017 at 10:36 AM. Reason : Lied directly about Russiantoo] 10/30/2017 10:36:17 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
^^my apologies then 10/30/2017 10:38:38 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Trump Campaign Foreign Policy Adviser Pleads Guilty In Russia Probe https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/george-papadopolous-trump-russia-probe_us_59f7354be4b07fdc5fbfa210
Quote : | "WASHINGTON ? A foreign policy adviser to President Donald Trump’s presidential campaign has pleaded guilty to a charge of lying to FBI agents.
George Papadopoulos, 30, pleaded guilty on Oct. 5, 2017, but the case wasn’t unsealed until Monday, when two other Trump associates were indicted by a federal grand jury. Papadopoulos reached a plea deal with prosecutors, and has since been cooperating with special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election.
Prosecutors’ statement of the offense alleges Papadopoulos “made material false statements and material omissions” during a Jan. 27, 2017, interview with the FBI. He was arrested July 27.
He told the FBI an overseas professor had “told him about the Russians possessing ‘dirt’ on then-candidate Hillary Clinton in the form of ‘thousands of emails,’ but stated multiple times that he learned that information prior to joining the campaign,” according to court documents. In fact, Papadopoulos was contacted after he learned he’d be joining the campaign, and the professor only mentioned the “thousands of emails” after he’d been on the Trump campaign for more than a month.
The professor, the statement indicates, had “substantial connections to Russian government officials” even though Papadopoulos claimed the professor was “a nothing.”" |
10/30/2017 10:53:00 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "WH claims he's got no info, but if he does" |
which do you think is more likely?
it’s not like he hit a reset button before being hired as campaign manager10/30/2017 11:10:04 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
Soooo do we get out of this with a resignation? And hope that Pence begins a long list of pardons?
This is playing out like a season of House of Cards.
[Edited on October 30, 2017 at 11:20 AM. Reason : sdfs] 10/30/2017 11:19:32 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
There should be zero pardons for any of this. 10/30/2017 11:33:23 AM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
Manafort allegedly hand-picked Pence to be VP.
He's not gonna be pardoning shit.
[Edited on October 30, 2017 at 11:36 AM. Reason : GUILTEEEEEEEEEEEEEREE] 10/30/2017 11:35:48 AM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
This is a very interesting find in the indictment: https://twitter.com/CongressmanRaja/status/925027554351894528
“Let[‘]s discuss. We need someone to communicate that DT is not doing these trips. It should be someone low level in the campaign so as not to send any signal.” 10/30/2017 11:58:54 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
apparently based on the indictment numbers and case numbers there may still be a sealed indictment, but i don't know enough about how indictment numbers work to know if that's true 10/30/2017 12:07:35 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
^probably Flynn's 10/30/2017 12:10:37 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
The FBI interview where Papadopolous lied about his Russia contacts was the same day Trump asked Comey for loyalty pledge (Jan. 27) 10/30/2017 12:39:21 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "apparently based on the indictment numbers and case numbers there may still be a sealed indictment, but i don't know enough about how indictment numbers work to know if that's true" |
That's exactly what I was thinking.10/30/2017 12:49:49 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
If anyone is going to reel in the bigger fish it will be Papa. 10/30/2017 12:53:38 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Please tell me you are watching the press briefing. She just told a nursery rhyme for 10 minutes about reporters drinking alcohol. 10/30/2017 1:39:54 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
her eyebrows are weirding me out 10/30/2017 1:53:31 PM |
packfootball All American 1717 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/30/tony-podesta-stepping-down-from-lobbying-giant-amid-mueller-probe-244314 10/30/2017 2:05:52 PM |
nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ I caught the last few minutes. I miss Spicey. 10/30/2017 2:06:53 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
More on Papa and why he is significant in all of this: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41808227
As for Podesta, I have no doubt he is corrupt to. I was never a Hillary supporter but at the same time I want to see Trump fall. 10/30/2017 2:46:43 PM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
Bring both establishment parties down, this two party system shit's gotta go anyway. 10/30/2017 2:53:32 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
^^
Tony Podesta != John Podesta 10/30/2017 3:00:25 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
also, none of that has anything to do with what’s going on in regards to this presidency 10/30/2017 3:06:53 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
https://mobile.twitter.com/igorvolsky/status/925051628473999360/video/1
They've moved on from "it never happened" to "it's not a crime." 10/30/2017 3:10:20 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
The stuff in the Papadopoulos plea is really juicy. Much more so than the Manafort/Gates indictments which seems more like typical white collar crime. 10/30/2017 3:12:44 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
People on reddit are saying that plea bargains are "no big deal" since they happen all the time. LOL 10/30/2017 3:30:40 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/357783-trump-to-lunch-with-sessions-amid-manafort-charges
Nothing to see here.
Quote : | "Trump allies have expressed confidence Manafort would not reveal damaging information about Trump or his team in a deal with prosecutors." |
That strikes me as a very odd thing to say if Trump is innocent.
[Edited on October 30, 2017 at 4:44 PM. Reason : a]10/30/2017 4:43:13 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/politics/special-counsel-papadopoulos-small-part-of-large-scale-investigation/index.html
Quote : | "Washington (CNN)Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos' guilty plea Monday appears to hint toward even more threads of the ongoing Russia collusion investigation than what the court revealed.
Lawyers from the Justice Department's special counsel office have repeatedly hinted at how Papadopoulos would contribute to a larger, sensitive investigation.
"The criminal justice interest being vindicated here is there's a large-scale ongoing investigation of which this case is a small part," Aaron Zelinsky of the special counsel's office said during Papadopoulos' October 5 plea agreement hearing, records of which were unsealed Monday." |
Quote : | ""Revealing the defendant's plea would likely chill individuals to be interviewed in the coming weeks," the filing added. In a transcript of his plea hearing, Zelinsky also referred to a "road map" it feared revealing about the larger investigation." |
10/30/2017 7:12:22 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
^Ive been seeing twitter speculation that suggests the term "proactive cooperator" (used in the filing to describe Papadapoulous) means he probably wore a wire or recorded phone conversations.
LordyIhopetherearetapes.jpg 10/30/2017 7:27:23 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
10/30/2017 7:34:36 PM |
Cabbage All American 2086 Posts user info edit post |
^^ https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/925115577190010880 10/30/2017 7:50:23 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
^^,^ YASSSSS!!! 10/30/2017 7:56:17 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Lol, if it's sessions 10/30/2017 8:19:08 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
Democrats see your Benghazi and raise you Russia.
You know they don't have anything when they have to slow drip the little things they do have in hopes to draw a confession. If they had anything of substance on tape, they would've acted on it, just like if they had anything on anyone who was actually in the administration, they wouldn't have told us "stay tuned for arrests on monday" so we could hype it up all weekend.
Meanwhile, all of the attention is diverted away from our country's problems 10/30/2017 9:23:37 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Disagree because that's not how major investigations work at all, but time will tell.
[Edited on October 30, 2017 at 9:41 PM. Reason : A] 10/30/2017 9:41:08 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Earl'd 10/30/2017 9:58:38 PM |