HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
https://t.co/BG4xyZnKFv?amp=1
I wonder if anyone refused to take this medication prescribed by their doctors due to fear from this story. 3/24/2020 8:48:55 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
I doubt it.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1167166?__twitter_impression=true
Quote : | "The toxic ingredient they consumed was not the medication form of chloroquine, used to treat malaria in humans. Instead, it was an ingredient listed on a parasite treatment for fish." |
3/24/2020 8:56:03 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
So being stupid has really nothing to do with Trump in this case (outside of Trump being stupid of course).
Should Trump stop mentioning the drug once he said it one time instead of constantly pushing it? Sure. Should he have kept its news under wraps until it was verified? Sure. He was trying to give a little bit of hope I guess.
Clorox is great to kill surface germs. Not so effective when ingested.
But you can't fix stupid, and that article clearly documents stupid.
[Edited on March 24, 2020 at 9:17 AM. Reason : adsfa] 3/24/2020 9:17:21 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
they took it because their Dear Leader mentioned it as a possible miracle cure
[Edited on March 24, 2020 at 10:29 AM. Reason : .] 3/24/2020 10:27:04 AM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Widow that almost died herself: "We took this because Trump has been talking about it on TV."
rjrumfel: "Stupid people! Trump has nothing to do with it."-] 3/24/2020 11:26:21 AM |
utowncha All American 898 Posts user info edit post |
i have things to say but also dont want to defend trump. what to do? 3/24/2020 11:32:43 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/lifesaving-lupus-drug-short-supply-after-trump-touts-possible-coronavirus-n1166981
this is why it is extremely dangerous to have a snake oil salesman do his thing at the podium every day 3/24/2020 12:52:47 PM |
utowncha All American 898 Posts user info edit post |
are these prescription drugs? 3/24/2020 2:00:32 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I mean, we can use nuance without really defending Trump, no?
Obviously two things can be true at the same time.
1) Trump has ZERO business standing up there and name-checking a cocktail list of non-approved-for-COVID19 drugs and it needs to stop; 2) Holding him accountable for two morons using a household substance with no supervision and at no suggestion of any doctor is silly
[Edited on March 24, 2020 at 2:11 PM. Reason : X] 3/24/2020 2:10:17 PM |
utowncha All American 898 Posts user info edit post |
well in the case of the lupus drug its probably because people were asking doctors for 1-3 months worth of the drug for their personal use in the case of quarantine.
these recommendations were coming down from doctors regarding birth control and other prescriptions as well.
doctors are not writing prescriptions for those or anti malarials just because trump name dropped them. as for the fish tank people? its like swallowing wart remover because trump mentions salicylic acid in a conversation about aspirin... but some darwin award motherfucker just remembers seeing that word on a label somewhere. 3/24/2020 2:18:23 PM |
BettrOffDead All American 12559 Posts user info edit post |
so i shouldnt have drank all my daily blackhead face wash because i had a headache? 3/25/2020 9:30:41 AM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Now they are trying to make it sound like its worse here than it is in Italy or anywhere else because we have the most total cases. 3/26/2020 10:03:42 PM |
ScubaSteve All American 5523 Posts user info edit post |
give it a week. 3/27/2020 10:51:30 AM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Youtube is removing interviews by Shahid Buttar (Pelosi's challenger). 4/7/2020 4:01:45 AM |
BettrOffDead All American 12559 Posts user info edit post |
no it's not. 4/7/2020 11:50:30 AM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
CNN isn't showing anymore task force briefings and their reasoning is good and obvious. The problem is they had no problem showing it when the outlook was really grim. Now that the outlook is better they are cutting it off and only showing highlights that they can narrate on the spot.
They also had no problem showing wall to wall coverage of every Trump rally in 2016... 4/13/2020 8:23:41 AM |
BettrOffDead All American 12559 Posts user info edit post |
you ever heard the phrase "Get a load of this fuckin guy"
CNN covering trump is mostly "get a load of this fucking guy"
now it's "oh shit, this guy is killing people with his lies, we better not air those lies" 4/13/2020 8:59:01 AM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
So now Don lemon is on a rant about how he didn't want an ad about what Trump has done in the past. He wants to hear only about what Trump is doing to keep him and his people safe.
The problem with that is that all they talk about is what Trump did or didn't do in the past. All they do is question the past. Then when he reacts to their poking, they go off and say he had no business trying to convince people about the job he has done so far.
They are playing games.
RE: CNN : "Who gave him the idea that he is the king and has control over what states do"
Maybe you guys who blamed everything that happens in those states on his lack of universal leadership?
[Edited on April 13, 2020 at 10:22 PM. Reason : don lemon on fire tonight] 4/13/2020 10:15:34 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Donald J. Trump: The Man With No Agency 4/13/2020 11:11:00 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Imagine rage-watching Don fucking Lemon.
Earl or Trump. Who consumes more cable news?
^ seriously. It’s pathetic. Maybe if you get triggered by the sight of Jim Acosta you should be writing for Gateway Pundit and not be president.
[Edited on April 14, 2020 at 6:53 AM. Reason : X] 4/14/2020 6:42:11 AM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
Its not that he doesn't have agency. Its that he is a certain way and will not let anyone "push him around". The media is running an experiment to find out if they can push him around and they get upset when he confirms that he is exactly how he always has been and is not going to let anyone get away with "hitting him". He feels like if he lets someone get away with one little thing, then it will be a sign of weakness and his power will be eroded away more and more. He holds a hard line and its not negotiable. Never has been. That line was drawn in the sand forever ago.
So if you know he always hits back but you hate when he hits back and think the entire exchange is "bad for the country" why would you keep hitting him? If you really think him hitting back is bad for the country at a time "when people are dying", then why would you hit him at this time "when people are dying"? I'm not saying Trump's behavior is excusable. I'm just saying it is what it is.
The media's behavior is like someone who hits a wasp nest then complains about the agitated wasps trying to sting them but then goes back and does the same thing over and over and is still surprised they are getting stung 4 years later.
Did they really think they could just insinuate him of killing thousands of people repeatedly and not get a response? Did they really think they could cover the past and he would just look forward and not address the claims they are making about the past? Did they really think he would come out and say " yeah I messed up and tens of thousands of people are dead because of my failed response"?
If you're going to try to wind him up, don't act surprised when he is wound up. 4/14/2020 2:48:15 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So if you know he always hits back but you hate when he hits back and think the entire exchange is "bad for the country" why would you keep hitting him" |
Bc it's their fucking job and responsibility? You're blaming the media for Trump being a giant baby. If you can't handle intense public criticism you shouldn't run for office.4/14/2020 2:58:36 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
I wouldn't really agree with "gotcha" questions being part of their responsibility even though its part of their job. Those questions don't really serve any purpose, and don't inform anyone. The entire point of those questions is to "test" the composure of the person by "pushing them".
[Edited on April 14, 2020 at 3:03 PM. Reason : trying to trap people into lying or self-damning] 4/14/2020 3:01:52 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
It gets it on public record so the person can't act like they never thought to answer, and gives the person a chance to either attempt to correct the narrative (Trump takes a very extreme version of this approach) or admit faults and explain corrective actions. A leader shouldn't have any problems determining their approach and dealing with tough questions.
If admitting mistakes and culpability = self damning, then hell yes, drawing that is absolutely a role of the media
[Edited on April 14, 2020 at 3:13 PM. Reason : Fucking phone typing ] 4/14/2020 3:10:47 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Earl is just happy that he finally has a fighter who punched back and loves it. 4/14/2020 3:11:49 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
so when can we reach a conclusion on what Trump's approach is? Doesn't EVERYONE know already? How many more examples need to go on public record.
[Edited on April 14, 2020 at 3:14 PM. Reason : ^conservatives have a fighter. please give me a fighter] 4/14/2020 3:13:26 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, it’s widely know that Trump lies all the time, is incoherent, contradicts himself and is a genuinely awful narcissistic psychopath.
I think it’s absolutely justified and necessary for the media to continue to show that.
[Edited on April 14, 2020 at 3:15 PM. Reason : I hope Don Lemon doesn’t trigger you tonight ] 4/14/2020 3:14:33 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
^^All of them
^yep
[Edited on April 14, 2020 at 3:15 PM. Reason : E]
Especially since conservative media, and some "liberal" media are constantly begging to talk about how he turned over a new leaf. Show that he never stops being who he is and he never will.
[Edited on April 14, 2020 at 3:17 PM. Reason : E] 4/14/2020 3:14:37 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
So you admit its fake news though?
Quote : | " news /n(y)o?oz/ Learn to pronounce noun newly received or noteworthy information, especially about recent or important events." |
It can't be news if its widely known and has been for years.
[Edited on April 14, 2020 at 3:21 PM. Reason : people watch the news during a pandemic and all they get is a description of trumps personality]4/14/2020 3:19:19 PM |
Cabbage All American 2086 Posts user info edit post |
^It's still news to the people who have dismissed it as fake news from the beginning.
Will they ever learn? 4/14/2020 3:35:31 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
fake news doesn't always mean its a lie or false. It usually just means its something that is not new or recently important being presented as if it is news. 4/14/2020 4:43:38 PM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
lol wut.
This fucking guy just tried to say old news was fake news. 4/14/2020 4:46:30 PM |
Cabbage All American 2086 Posts user info edit post |
^^
Bullshit 4/14/2020 5:03:40 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
wow fucking ban earl already 4/14/2020 5:47:00 PM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
I never thought the literal definition of news could enrage someone. Its not like we call it olds. 4/14/2020 6:16:28 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Who's enraged? 4/14/2020 6:38:25 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Earl. When he sees Don Lemon or Chris Cuomo tonight. 4/14/2020 7:00:11 PM |
nacstate All American 3785 Posts user info edit post |
https://twitter.com/VickyPJWard/status/1249827039256985603?s=19
I guess the chyron writer was like aww fuck it. 4/14/2020 8:10:06 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
This is old news. Trump hasn't acknowledged obvious mistakes for at least three years.
By horosho's reckoning, that's "fake news".-] 4/14/2020 8:34:27 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
by your definition, the only fake news i can think of is when trump sharpied the old forecast model on a more recent NOAA forecast
GUYS FAKE NEWS IS JUST OLD NEWS DUH YOU FUCKING IDIOTS
thanks for the correction earl 4/14/2020 8:49:13 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
At this point, I don't know why anyone takes NYT seriously anymore. Their bias is so incredibly transparent.
Quote : | "I want to focus particularly on the Julie Swetnick allegations. She was the one who was represented by Michael Avenatti and who suggested that Kavanaugh had been involved in frat house rapes, and then appeared to walk back elements of her allegations. The Times wrote that story the same day she made the allegation, noting that "none of Ms. Swetnick's claims could be independently corroborated. "Why was Kavanaugh treated differently?
Kavanaugh was already in a public forum in a large way. Kavanaugh's status as a Supreme Court justice was in question because of a very serious allegation. And when I say in a public way, I don't mean in the public way of Tara Reade's. If you ask the average person in America, they didn't know about the Tara Reade case. So I thought in that case, if The New York Times was going to introduce this to readers, we needed to introduce it with some reporting and perspective. Kavanaugh was in a very different situation. It was a live, ongoing story that had become the biggest political story in the country. It was just a different news judgment moment…." |
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/13/business/media/joe-biden-tara-reade-new-york-times.html#click=https://t.co/J9h2VkaaZf4/15/2020 9:54:28 AM |
utowncha All American 898 Posts user info edit post |
Here you go, HCH:
https://reason.com/2020/04/12/tara-reade-joe-biden-new-york-times-sexual-assault/ 4/15/2020 10:11:35 AM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Good summation, thanks for linking. And I had not seen this tweet:
Quote : | ""No other allegation about sexual assault surfaced in the course of reporting, nor did any former Biden staff members corroborate any details of Ms. Reade's allegation. The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden, beyond the hugs, kisses, and touching that women previously said made them uncomfortable."" |
kid's gloves.4/15/2020 10:36:47 AM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
At least AOC is still authentic
Quote : | ""I think it's legitimate to talk about these things," Ocasio-Cortez responded, according to CBS News. "And if we want, if we again want to have integrity, you can't say, you know — both believe women, support all of this, until it inconveniences you, until it inconveniences us."" |
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/492856-ocasio-cortez-says-its-legitimate-to-talk-about-allegation-against-Biden4/15/2020 11:23:53 AM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
*checks thread title* 4/15/2020 12:14:52 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7144 Posts user info edit post |
Is Don Lemon liberal? Just caught 2 minutes of him asking guest if there weren’t 18 viruses before Covid-19. And then laughing and looking smug when guest said 6. 4/15/2020 10:50:13 PM |
daaave Suspended 1331 Posts user info edit post |
Fox News NPR lying about unemployment
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/21/838879361/bitter-taste-for-coffee-shop-owner-as-new-600-jobless-benefit-closed-her-busines
4/21/2020 12:52:46 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1253556794405896192?s=21
The institutional rot at the NYT is likely beyond saving.
How hard is it to simply fire your social media team or hire competent headline writers? 4/24/2020 9:33:56 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
Jacobin ran a piece saying a) the left should sympathize with reopen and b) a white supremacist had "economic anxiety
https://twitter.com/weedlewobble/status/1253769751324692481?s=19 4/25/2020 11:34:03 AM |
BettrOffDead All American 12559 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ read the article, didn't see a lie. what am i missing? 4/25/2020 5:04:16 PM |