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Dentaldamn
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Is this a Young Turks nerd??

[Edited on October 10, 2019 at 9:55 PM. Reason : Yep. ]

10/10/2019 9:54:45 PM

NyM410
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He’s an Assadist, too.

And fwiw, I had no idea he was a comedian. He basically just rails on the establishment non-stop which is fine, but also is neck deep in disinformation.

** also, lol at giving one fuck about Ellen and posting about her in a thread criticizing the Democrats. She and GWB both suck. What does that have to do with Democrats? Did I somehow stumble into Glenn Greenwald’s twitter feed on TWW?

[Edited on October 11, 2019 at 7:40 AM. Reason : C]

10/11/2019 7:37:52 AM

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Change in effective tax rate since 1962

We essentially have a flat tax now in our country

[Edited on October 11, 2019 at 7:58 PM. Reason : ]

10/11/2019 7:57:42 PM

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good, except that we need to get the top .01% and above up to where the top .1% is, which I've been saying forever.

10/11/2019 10:35:46 PM

StTexan
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Lets leave the red lines where they are and put gray or black lines back where they used to be

10/11/2019 11:13:04 PM

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"good, except that we need to get the top .01% and above up to where the top .1% is, which I've been saying forever."


24% tax is a much higher burden on someone making barely enough to live than someone who has all of their necessities plus several yachts

a flat tax is not fair, it's just simplistic

[Edited on October 11, 2019 at 11:50 PM. Reason : .]

10/11/2019 11:50:38 PM

moron
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I could be okay with this tax structure if we had a progressive federal property tax of sorts.

10/12/2019 12:43:32 AM

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"good"


Stopped reading there.

10/12/2019 1:16:36 AM

dtownral
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^

10/13/2019 4:42:55 PM

horosho
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Every single democrat voted for the resolution against withdrawal from Syria. You are officially the party of war.

10/16/2019 6:28:00 PM

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^god you’re a dumbass

10/16/2019 7:18:16 PM

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HELL YEAH WE’RE THE PARTY OF WAR

BACK TO BACK WORLD WAR CHAMPS UNDER DEMOCRAT PRESIDENTS!!!!1

10/16/2019 7:19:31 PM

dtownral
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I wonder how the green party members of congress voted

10/16/2019 7:22:40 PM

horosho
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The real irony is that they are all voting for a resolution condemning the president's refusal to continue to circumvent the law while simultaneously pursuing impeachment of said president.

That circumvention of the law is in regards to fighting ISIS indefinitely in Syria without ever voting for an AUMF or declaration of war. Also ironically, they won't vote on impeachment articles.

So is the law and procedure laid out by the constitution important or not? Its hard to keep up at this point.

10/16/2019 8:06:50 PM

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What is happening?

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/schumer-democrats-overturn-tax-deduction-cap-66442477

The world is turned upside down.
Quote :
"He said Americans living in suburban neighborhoods in high-tax states, like New York and California, are already paying some of the highest property and school taxes in the nation and "for the federal government to then penalize them is so unfair.""


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"Democrats continue to push for $620 billion tax cut - of which
--96% would go to the richest 20% of earners,
--56% would go to the richest 1%.

It turns out that wealthy families vote blue, and -- campaign rhetoric aside -- elected Dems cater to them."

10/22/2019 1:48:50 PM

NyM410
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Lhttps://twitter.com/whitehouse/status/1186707420602601472?s=21

Why would this admin have even a 5th grade level understanding of statistics.

10/23/2019 9:36:36 AM

thegoodlife3
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AOC is fuckin’ great

http://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1187088925719969793

Zuckerberg is the opposite of fuckin’ great

10/23/2019 4:06:48 PM

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Such an own goal for some of these goober :cough:Biden:cough: to get on Trump about lynching then have to stammer and stutter when it turns out the idiots said the same thing about Bill Clinton. Do some self-OPPO research! Then it's worse when they try to say "oh yea sorry but his is worse for some reason." Just say "I fucked up and it's bad in both situations"

10/23/2019 4:44:10 PM

rwoody
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Are threesoms credible or no?

10/24/2019 12:23:36 PM

HCH
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^^^How about when Al Green asked how Zuk doesn't know the race and sexual preferences of the CEOs for the 21 organizations.
https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1187033479395061761

Almost as good as Maxine Waters telling Zuck that standing for free speech is above the law.
https://twitter.com/YahooFinance/status/1187011255917150208


But easily the best was Posey (R) asking Zuck if he thought vaccines were harmful. (I came for the grandstanding, but staid to watch Zuck laugh at a congressman.
https://twitter.com/jonsarlin/status/1187027878564782081

10/24/2019 3:37:01 PM

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"Are threesoms credible or no?"


fun and credible, just sometimes difficult when a couple is involved. I can totally get behind the story that her ex hubby released some not-so-flattering photos of her, cuz that happens all of the time. I am, however, a bit interested in the "Nazi Cross" that is apparently tatted on her hip. I can't seem to find any pics of it, but is it just the iron cross, or does it have the swastika in it?

The iron cross alone shouldn't be that controversial. It is a very old symbol that has been used by many different groups and ideologies, including the CSA.

In fact, if you could prove that one of your relatives died as a confederate during the civil war, the VA will issue a CSA iron cross for his tombstone.


[Edited on October 28, 2019 at 12:18 AM. Reason : k]

10/27/2019 11:54:42 PM

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"We essentially have a flat tax now in our country"


Looking at that graphic, it is way worse than flat.

The top 400 individuals have a lower rate than the bottom 90 percent.

Also, top 400 < top 0.01% < top 0.1% for tax rate.

How does any of that make any sense?

US is the most oppressive, unfair, unequal, money-hungry, planetarily-damaging, and corporatocratic of all Western democracies, by a huge margin, and brazenly so.

Damn, sort by any of the first 3 columns after country name, and see where US is and where Western European countries are. So damn shameful and sad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_income_equality

Sort here by Wealth GINI, last column, and US is one of the top (worst) countries. Check where most of the European countries are.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_distribution_of_wealth

And in both links, check what other countries are around the US with regards to Gini and other inequality data.


[Edited on October 28, 2019 at 1:07 AM. Reason : And that's why Bernie will never get elected ]

10/28/2019 12:54:50 AM

dtownral
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i'm not sure if open testimony is the right decision yet (maybe, not sure) since the closed door testimony was working so well, but are democrats going to at least have an attorney do the questioning?

11/6/2019 6:10:15 PM

rwoody
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Schumer praised Peter King today. (not the Iowa racist King, the NY racist King)

11/11/2019 4:01:16 PM

NyM410
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https://twitter.com/politico/status/1197114895390646272?s=21

JFC.

Shame Matt Jones didn’t jump in on this a lot earlier. He would at least put some tepid pressure on Mitch.

11/20/2019 8:50:51 AM

horosho
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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/471723-independents-souring-on-impeachment-underscores-risk-for-democrats
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New public opinion polls are moving against Democrats on impeachment as independents sour on the House inquiry and increasingly express opposition to the hearings that have consumed Washington in recent weeks. "

trump's winning impeachment
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Peter Daou
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#Impeachment should have taken place in January to send a message to the country and the world that we don't tolerate brazen abuse of power and incitement of white supremacist terror.

But #Pelosi and Dem leaders were busy playing 7-D chess, ignoring progressive activists...

"


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It wasn't until Trump came for Biden that the Dem establishment went into a frenzy.

For all the prior months, they pissed on the idea of impeaching Trump, marginalizing those who called for #impeachment.

Yup, this is a total mess."


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"Second, focusing so narrowly on #Ukraine effectively gives Trump and his accomplices a free pass for egregious abuses, including crimes against humanity on the border.

And now #McConnell can make a big show of acquittal.."


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"Oh come on. There has been "ironclad" evidence of Trump torturing migrant children for years.

Public opinion was only stagnant because Dem leaders kept shooting down talk of #impeachment.

Waiting for a whistleblower is not exactly a "brlliant strategy.""


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Leela Daou
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#IMPEACH TRUMP FOR HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES SO THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS WE ARE NOT MONSTERS.

Not just for a damn phone call."


I called all this shit from the start and everyone here knows it. They never cared about real crimes against women and children. They cared about going after one of their own.

11/26/2019 2:37:16 AM

dtownral
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democrats have not had a cogent media strategy (or seemingly any kind of coordinated strategy at all) to go along with the impeachment inquiry and that's a very dangerous failure

the media will not report this fairly on their own, democrats have to be pushing the media every single day

11/26/2019 8:56:29 AM

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I enjoyed both of these clips.

https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1199343847370674176

11/26/2019 1:27:50 PM

horosho
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If you need a coordinated media strategy to sell an impeachment offense, then its not an impeachable offense.

11/27/2019 1:30:11 AM

dtownral
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Top notch legal analysis, lol

11/27/2019 7:33:13 AM

NyM410
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Not only that but it’s so insanely hypocritical for the guy who is OBSESSED with the media manipulating people to all of a sudden say “lol, media doesn’t matter” if you have the goods.

11/27/2019 8:02:57 AM

horosho
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I think you missed misunderstood my post unless you believe media has convinced everyone Trump should NOT be impeached.

My point is that the impeachment (and removal) is reserved for the president doing something so egregious that we cannot even let him go on with his term. This isn't an election its more like a criminal court. Its a high bar and I feel like needing to convince someone about it tells you that it wasn't so obviously egregious. It needs to be egregious without doubt. Simply "doing bad thing" is not necessarily impeachable and the public will decide if it was bad enough in November.

Of course the media can and does manipulate people. Do you think the MSM (aside from fox) hasn't been pro-impeachment? Maddow, Cuomo, Tapper, Lemon etc have been doing "here's why this is so bad" explanations the whole time. You know I know because I keep them on everyday. I've always said if something is so bad you wouldn't need to say "heres why this is so bad"

[Edited on November 27, 2019 at 1:25 PM. Reason : the real problem is they chose to impeach him on the least bad bad thing he's done]

11/27/2019 1:24:12 PM

dtownral
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https://constitutionus.com/
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"The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."


not found: "unless a media strategy is needed to combat poor reporting, in which case article 2 section 4 does not apply"

11/27/2019 1:32:56 PM

utowncha
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a president can only be impeached if he commits a crime earl understands.

like shitting in someones unwilling mouth.

12/4/2019 7:37:54 PM

horosho
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I didn't say that. I said its 'like' a criminal court. it doesn't have to be a crime but it still needs to be "so egregious we can't let him finish out his term" and it needs to be proven to the degree of a conviction. Its much more than "did a bad thing".

And just to be clear, I think Trump has committed impeachable offenses, the democrats just aren't using them to impeach him. Probably because they too would be implicated in the high crimes Trump is guilty of. We are actively running concentration camps and impeaching the president over a slick phone call. What kind of message does that send? That is part of why Pelosi has no credibility. Oh, and she doesn't hate the president, she simply thinks he's trying to destroy the country for personal gain. Don't mess with her.
https://twitter.com/thesavionwright/status/1202788686292758530

[Edited on December 5, 2019 at 11:26 PM. Reason : added a tweet for that one kid who hates tweets]

12/5/2019 11:10:54 PM

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" We are actively running concentration camps and impeaching the president over a slick phone call. "


Dude, you really need to get out of the rightwing fever swamps. I get a diversity of opinion isn’t necessarily a bad thing but if you think this is all about one phone call you are so deep into the Hannity-like world I’m not sure there’s a way out.

Also, you appear to be like one post away from yelling about a “perfect call.”

12/6/2019 7:58:27 AM

dtownral
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fucking seriously? hand trump a win right now for a deal people don't even like?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-12-09/pelosi-white-house-near-handshake-deal-on-new-nafta-agreement

12/9/2019 4:01:35 PM

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Lol, such utter stupidity.

“Donald, please take this huge win and show the country that you can rise above this impeachment nonsense and govern.” - Nancy

How can she possibly think she will get any credit whatsoever from any “swing” voter on this. JFC.
At least give people like Bernie and Warren a chance to campaign on more labor protection in a renegotiated deal 15 months from now.

12/10/2019 12:06:50 AM

dtownral
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They're having back to back press conferences for impeachment and trumps trade deal

This is insane

12/10/2019 8:27:35 AM

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Gotta please that business daddy.

But maybe not... Fox will hype the trade deal, but it will be swallowed by the impeachment news tonight. This move could deny a lot of the weight of that win for the administration.

[Edited on December 10, 2019 at 10:31 AM. Reason : ]

12/10/2019 10:11:19 AM

dtownral
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Hahahaha, and Republicans are attacking Pelosi for taking so long on USMCA

Fucking shit show

12/10/2019 11:57:51 AM

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https://thehill.com/homenews/news/474204-democrats-worried-by-jeremy-corbyns-uk-rise-amid-anti-semitism

Worthless assholes. I'm surprised they haven't tried to pull this with Bernie even though he's Jewish.

12/12/2019 1:01:02 PM

horosho
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If this impeachment thing was serious, they wouldn't send it to the senate to die and would wait until they win the senate. They would just keep it in the house and keep investigating through the election.

12/12/2019 8:58:56 PM

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Doesn’t make sense to impeach a president in congress after he’s out of office.

Trump is facing criminal charges when he leaves office but there’s a concern of statute of limitations and pardons if he gets re-elected.

Voting trump out now subjects him to criminal prosecution. I think this is annoyingly why they kept the articles of impeachment to two constitutional issues... it doesn’t interfere with the criminal process.

12/12/2019 11:22:17 PM

horosho
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Theres 100% chance he gets acquitted in the senate. What good is securing the right to a criminal prosecution if its only coming after 4 more years of him being president?

12/13/2019 12:07:24 AM

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^Speaking of hypotheticals, what good is waiting until after the 2020 election in the case that Republicans hold on to the Senate, genius?

12/13/2019 1:49:58 AM

horosho
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I'm saying its obvious that if they were serious about it, they would keep it alive by keeping it in the house. This would not involve waiting as there is still a lot more that can be done. It would involve more investigation, more testimony and maybe even more articles. They've only scratched the surface on what they could do. This is the quickest impeachment in history.

12/13/2019 2:09:40 AM

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Quote :
".....and would wait until they win the senate."


followed by

Quote :
"This would not involve waiting as there is still a lot more that can be done."



Tell you what: You make up your mind what you're trying to say, then get back to me, K?

LOL!

12/13/2019 2:26:29 AM

horosho
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Well its all about context. I probably should have used 'prolong' instead of 'wait' the first time because you took it to mean "Merrick garland style, sitting on hands, doing nothing" when I clearly stated "keep investigating through the election".

12/13/2019 11:04:38 AM

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Yea I don’t get the strategy here. The Dems had a chance to just bog down trump for the next 18 months or whatever it is in a bunch of hearings and investigations one after another. Should have just been 18 months of this and then if he got re-elected maybe push forward and maybe a more favorable Senate situation. Allow the impeachment to loom and be an issue during the election.

People already don’t understand / care about some Ukraine Biden scandal and most don’t care about some “know it all professor” telling them why it matters. Yes big deal to anyone who understands what he’s doing but that’s not most of America honestly. People don’t really care and this now goes to the Senate where he is 100% acquitted as they will control the way it’s run and presented. It hands the Republicans such an easy win. I don’t get what they expected out of sending this to the Senate? Did they really think even one Republican would fall out of line?

Right now every Dem should be on TV talking about how the president picks on teenagers trying to make the world a better place. Hammer home done lowest common denominator talking points - what the Republicans are great at.

[Edited on December 13, 2019 at 11:50 AM. Reason : .]

12/13/2019 11:49:52 AM

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